Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext

Surgikill

@Surgikill said in Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext:

@dc42 can you give us the exterior dimensions of the board? I'm trying to see how it will fit in my printer.

I threw some pictures up in CAD and scaled them, looks like board width is around 45mm without connectors, and board height is around 50mm without connectors.

dc42

@Surgikill I expect we will publish drawings and models next week.

nikscha

@elmoret Nothing stopping you from using a 24V heater at 36V XD
You'd get 2.25 times more power out of it!
(and a fire hazard lol)

Surgikill

@dc42 any update on this?

dc42

@Surgikill not yet, Tony normally does the drawings and STEP models but he is very busy with Formnext follow-up and SMRRF preparation.

edsped

@Surgikill said in Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext:

@fcwilt said in Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext:

@Herve_Smith

You consider the prices to be an issue?

The money I spend on hardware is dwarfed by the money I spend on filament.

Frederick

Toolboards are primarily made for tool changer setups, so multiply your cost difference by the number of toolheads. I'm currently building a tool changer, and each toolhead is going to run me close to $400. At some point, cost becomes a favor. When my toolhead alone is over double the cost of an ender 3 you have to take a step back and reevaluate.

I run RRF-36's on my toolchanger and wish I set it up that way sooner.

Surgikill

@edsped those actually look like they might work perfectly. A ton cheaper too.

edsped

@Surgikill said in Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext:

@edsped those actually look like they might work perfectly. A ton cheaper too.

No issues on my end so far but I have to admit I'm intrigued by the scanning probe but at more than twice the price for the board not sure if it would be worth it.

fcwilt

@Surgikill said in Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext:

those actually look like they might work perfectly. A ton cheaper too.

But they are a funny shape. Who wants a printer with parts that have a funny shape. Give me a good old rectangle every time.

Frederick

Surgikill

@edsped Scanning probe would be good. I guess I could have one toolhead with a scanning probe and a euclid probe, and use either depending on the build surface, then do the rest with a fly-rrf-36.

@fcwilt Although, I do like that most of the connectors are along the bottom edge, and the stepper is along the top. Connectors along the sides have been a real pain for me designing slim toolheads so I can increase tool capacity.

@fcwilt My Orbiter extruders have the same funny shape at the back thanks to their NEMA14 stepper so I am set. And it is amazing how you can hide the funny boards shape inside an enclosure so the one on the NEMA17 does not need a sheet thrown over it if companies is over.

edsped

I actually like the shape and as has already been said, having connectors on all 4 sides seems like it would add clutter. For me the RRF-36's are nice and compact. I'll likely grab the step file when it's released and see how it compares though.

fcwilt

@edsped

I was just making a funny remark about the shape.

I assume it is shaped that way to fit something else.

So what is that "something else"?

Thanks.

Frederick

jay_s_uk

@fcwilt the RRF-36 is shaped to mount on the rear of a nema 14

fcwilt

@jay_s_uk said in Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext:

@fcwilt the RRF-36 is shaped to mount on the rear of a nema 14

There must be more to that. A NEMA 14 is square. The RRF-36 is not.

Frederick

jay_s_uk

@fcwilt round nema 14's aren't square... https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/round-nema-14-bipolar-0-9deg-8ncm-11-33oz-in-0-65a-36x20mm-4-wires-14hr08-0654s
they're now also the most popular type of motor to use on an extruder

fcwilt

@jay_s_uk

Well now it makes some sense.

Thanks.

Frederick

@fcwilt Let me guess, back in math class you were the one to yell out Pie aint square, pie are round . Right?

fcwilt

@KenW

No, not that I recall.

It just seems to me that they made that shape to fit onto/into something else where that particular shape was well suited.

I doubt they picked that shape for artistic reasons.

Frederick

@fcwilt Southern humor does not translate well I take it. The complete version of that one is.
Pie aint square. pie are round, cornbread are square.