Tool change issues after firmware update 1.19.2

dc42

I'm glad the main issue is resolved. I think you have the text "Lift Z relatively to current position" in your tpre1.g file, without the semicolon at the start to indicate that it is a comment.

MrT

I will check right away

MrT

you are right

the ; was missing , but it has always been missing cause I did not edit the file
the error msg is gone but the stop in the middle of the tool change remains on T1

T0 is being parked and collected correctly
but when it goes back to collect tool1 seems that to stops before finished and immediately wait for the tool to get to temp then continue printing but the tool1 is not loaded

Thanks
Best Regards
Manuel Topiol

dc42

OK, it's back on my list to look at.

MrT

Dear DC42
just to see what happens I have let the printer continue to print

the behavior is as follow
start printing
T0 is loaded waiting till it reaches temp , start 1 layer
T0 is parked Tfree fully executed
T1 is in the process of being loaded the gcode executes to the 5th line of the tpre, and stops there
then remains there till the nozzle reaches the temperature ,
once the temperature is reached it continues to print , without the tool being loaded , but the tool is active like it should .
once the layer without loaded tool is completed it executes Tfree1 successfully
Then execute tpre0 successfully and tool0 is correctly loaded wait for temp to be reached and start printing.

hope it will help u to find the glitch

Best Regards
Manuel Topiol

I have put back the 1.18 firmware and the switching is back to normal no stopping at T1 command

foehnsturm

This is probably not closely related but I'm running 1.19.2 (2017-09-01) and noticed that the final line of my tfree macros is not reliably executed (when using the select tool command in the WebUI). It sometimes finishes the macro without performing the last move but will perfectly execute any following command (which ofc could cause a crash into the dock). I ended up with duplicating the final line to safeguard its execution.
Magnetic tool changer on a corexy.

[[language]]
; tfree0.g
; called when tool 0 is freed
;

M83
G0 E-5 F1200
M82
G0 X252 Y215 F16000
G91
G0 Y47
G0 X30 F4000
G0 X4 F2000
G90
G0 Y215 F6000
G0 Y215 F6000

MrT

Dear foehnsturm

I am also using a magnetic tool change , with the 1.18 firmware I can confirm that all is working well ,
I never managed to get 1.19 working ,since I always had the wrong tool active. did you experience something similar ?
The issue with wrong tool being active got solved with the latest 1.2 beta4 but I am still facing some issues with the tpre file as it is not fully executed.

Best Regards
MT

MrT

Dear DC42 & foehnsturm

Seems foehnsturm is correct !!
I have tried to add the last line of tpre1 2 times and it seems to work
If I may ask what slicer are you guys using ?
thanks to both of you
Best Regards
MT

foehnsturm

Great that I could help.
@dc42, could there be an issue with always completely executing the macro?
@topiolm@hotmail.com, no yet using a slicer Just finished the park and pickup sequences.

MrT

foehnsturm

do you use something similar to mark2 for your tool change ?

Best Regards
MT

foehnsturm

A little more complicated: multiple toolheads but only one stepper.

MrT

I have tried some similar approach some time ago without much success I was clogging my nozzle 2 often with the retract , then I just dropped it. since I have limited time for my hobbies
If you don't mind could you post some picture just for my curiosity

Best Regards
MT

Ps if you intrested something I have tested with great success ,the use of compressed air for cooling the part during printing , for small part worked miracles only problem was the amount of air used and the noise, my neighbor became crazy , the compressor was working to much and for to long :-). so reverted to the traditional fan,

the advantaged was less weight on the head and vibration was reduced ,not that there is a lot of vibration , but any improvement is an improvement how ever small

MrT

Dear DC42

I found an other issue , if I cancel a print the tool change macro are not being executed
to better explain , if I cancel a print and a tool is still loaded , I and I click on the tool to put it back in standby and go back to its parking place , I get no responds

Best regards
MT

dc42

Chrishamm put an option in DWC to not run the tool change macros when you change tool in DWC. Perhaps you have that option selected?

MrT

Once again you are right got over exited to have my printer working again , and was to quick to post,
pls accept my apologies

Thanks again for your support
Best Regards
MT

Scachi

I am on 1.19(.0) as this is what my duet wifi came with and I can't find the download for the 1.19.2, or the download isn't listed as .2 ?

I have the same issue that the tool change files are not fully executed. The movement to the pickup/drop off position are not getting reached all the time.
I am using a magnetic tool pickup system too.

Files used:
tfree0.g, tfree1g
tpre0.g, tpre1.g
tpost0.g, tpost0.g

tfree0.g

[[language]]
G90
G1 X-34.0 F3000 ; move to left side
M42 P5 S0 ; left magnet off

tfree1.g

[[language]]
G90
G1 X244.0 F3000 ; move to right side
M42 P6 S0 ; right magnet off

tpre0.g

[[language]]
G90
G1 X-34.0 F3000 ; move to left side
M42 P5 S1 ; left magnet on

tpre1.g

[[language]]
G90
G1 X244.0 F3000 ; move to right side
M42 P6 S1 ; right magnet on

tpost0.g

[[language]]
; Wait for set temperatures to be reached
M116 P0

tpost1.g

[[language]]
; Wait for set temperatures to be reached
M116 P1

dc42

@Scachi:

I am on 1.19(.0) as this is what my duet wifi came with and I can't find the download for the 1.19.2, or the download isn't listed as .2 ?

I have the same issue that the tool change files are not fully executed. The movement to the pickup/drop off position are not getting reached all the time.
I am using a magnetic tool pickup system too.

Latest stable firmware binaries are always at https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/releases.

Please check whether the tool change issue is the same as the previous user had, i.e. DWC configured to not run the tool change macros.

jacksat

Best Regards
MT

Ps if you intrested something I have tested with great success ,the use of compressed air for cooling the part during printing , for small part worked miracles only problem was the amount of air used and the noise, my neighbor became crazy , the compressor was working to much and for to long :-). so reverted to the traditional fan,

the advantaged was less weight on the head and vibration was reduced ,not that there is a lot of vibration , but any improvement is an improvement how ever small

Hi,

I used a aircompressor to ,but now I use a airpump from my pond for part cooling.
All you hear now is the sound of air at the nozzle the pump is super silent.
The one I use is even too much airflow, you probably can use a smaller Hiblow 40hp or similar but this is what I had and they are not cheap.
The air regulator I use too dry the air with silica (cat litter),I replaced the oil in the oiler and and the watercatcher with silica, so no condensation can drip
out at the cooling end and ruining your prints.
You can go with cheaper brands but I know from experience they are also noisier.

And I use watercooling to cool the extruders ,so my setup is really quiet.

dc42

Thanks for the tip! A few of us have been looking for quieter air pumps.

Scachi

I have updated to 1.19.2 , the issue still exists.
I have the checkboxes active for tool change, I can see it start to move but it isn't working like it should.
To me it looks like the commands in this file aren't executed one by one, after the previous line has finished.
It seems they get executed without waiting for the previous one to complete.

I have emptied my free[0,1].g files and tried to only use the pre[0,1].g files.

[[language]]
; Absolute positioning
G90
G1 X244.0 ;F3000 ; move to right
M42 P6 S0 ; right magnet off

G1 X-34.0 ;F3000 ; move to left
M42 P5 S1 ; left magnet on

With this file, I can hear the relay controling the magnet click right after the first move has started, not after it has finished !

Maybe the free and pre files are getting executed without waiting for all the commands to complete, one after the other. This would explain why some of my moves where stopping in wrong places when using both files (free & pre).