Anycubic I3 Mega Mod questions

grizewald

Great! You're making good progress.

It doesn't matter if you had the second Z motor in E1 or E0, just that you moved the end stop to the next free one in order. It's actually simpler to leave the first extruder in E0 and put the second Z motor in E1 as the firmware expects that you will use E0 for the first extruder.

In the end though, it doesn't really matter, as long as you describe everything correctly for the firmware. It certainly beats re-compiling and flashing firmware every time you want to make a configuration change!

pauledd

Fans are workin!

Of cause I forgot to put the V_FAN jumper on V_IN as I wondered
why nothing moves...

Just for those who stew over how to connect the Anycubic (FAN1) connector, that's how I wired it to the Duet:

pauledd

Hotbed is working!
I measured the current to the hotbed alone and that gave me about 14.3A while heating up to 55°C. The 15A fuse got hot to about 65°C but once the bed reached 55°C it cooled down to about 50°C.

Should I go for a 20A fuse?

jay_s_uk

It might be worth thinking about an SSR to control the heated bed so you're not putting all the power through the duet.

pauledd

Yes, I consider that if everything else works perfectly.

pauledd

Hotend works too!

But now three steps back to Z-Axis problem
Z+ stepper (left) again crashed onto the endstop while doing a Home Z, the Z+ endstop led was even lit up...

By the way and quite strange, If I trigger both Z endstopps
earlier with my fingers the homing process finishes every time successfully. I'll try to fiddle a bit more, maybe I get behind that mystery. Maybe I twist both endstops to see if one is kind of faulty...

pauledd

Z Axis Problem still not solved but at least the last crash was some time ago... I now monitor the Z endstops IO pins with my oscilloscope to find out if there is something strange if it crashes again.

But I couldnt resist to print my first testcube that came out good, with a LOT room for optimization.

Thermal situation while printing the cube:
(steppers set to 1.2A)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd4siLtXD9I&feature=youtu.be

pauledd

I noticed something weird if I do a "HOME-Z". That might be the reason
for crashing Z-axis into endstops or my understanding of that process is wrong/incomplete. Just as a side note, I changed the endstops with new ones and checked the endstop signals on my oscilloscope but this did not solve the crashing problem...

What I observed:

I move the Z axis up a bit so that I can test both endstops without crashing the axis onto them.

I press HOME-Z.

Z axis moves slowly down. I press the right endstop first, nothing happens, both steppers continue moving until I press the left endstop.
(that would produce a crash if endstops are triggered with delay).

Now I test HOME-Z again but this time I press left endstop first.
As I trigger left endstop the RIGHT stepper stops, the left one keeps moving until I trigger the right endstop.
(that would produce a crash too if there is a delay between both endstop triggering...)

Is my understanding wrong and this is the intended procedure or is there something wrong?

Shouldn't stop the left stepper if I trigger the left endstop and vice versa? Is this maybe a software problem?

I also recorded a video, you might have problems to see the steppers stop because they move quite slowly...

https://youtu.be/qJ-i4Jgc1WA

grizewald

@pauledd How about posting your current config.g and homing files? Also, can you confirm which end stop inputs and motor outputs you have the two Z motors and two Z end stop switches connected to?

pauledd

Sure.

Z+ stepper --> Z
Z- stepper --> E0
Z+ endstop --> Z-STOP
Z- endstop --> E0-STOP

config.g:

M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 U3 E4 P3                          ; set drive mapping

M208 X-115:107.5 Y-107.5:107.5 Z0:205 U0:205

; Endstops
M574 X1 Y1 Z1 U1 S0                          ; set active low and disabled endstops

G90                                       ; send absolute coordinates...
M83                                       ; ...but relative extruder moves
M550 P"Pauls Duet"                        ; set printer name

; Network
M552 S1                                   ; enable network
M586 P0 S1                                ; enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0                                ; disable FTP
M586 P2 S1                                ; enable Telnet

; Drives
M569 P0 S0                                ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
M569 P1 S0                                ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
M569 P2 S1                                ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
M569 P3 S1                                ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
M569 P4 S1				  ; Z- physical drive 4 goes forwards
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 E16 I1                   ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80.02 Y80.07 Z398.00 U398.00 E92.60          ; set steps per mm
M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 U12.00 E120.00       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X4000 Y4000 Z360.00 U360.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X2000.00 Y2000.00 Z50.00 U50.00 E250.00     ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 U1200 E1200 I30          ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S10                                   ; Set idle timeout

; Z-Probe
M558 P0 H40 F120 T3000                    ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
M557 X15:210 Y15:195 S20                  ; define mesh grid

; Heaters
M305 P0 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700  ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S90                               ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 90C
M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700  ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
M143 H1 S245                              ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 245C

; Fans
M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                    ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                          ; define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                           ; set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0                              ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Custom settings
M552 S1

homeall.g:

G91                     ; relative positioning
G1 Z10 F3000 H2     	; lift Z relative to current position
G1 X-215 Y-215 F1800 H1 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
G1 X5 Y5 F3000          ; go back a few mm
G1 X-215 Y-215 F360 H1  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)

M98 Phomez.g

home.x:

G91               ; relative positioning
G1 Z10 F3000 H2   ; lift Z relative to current position
G1 X-215 F1800 H1 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
G1 X5 F1800       ; go back a few mm
G1 X-215 F360 H1  ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
G1 Z-10 F1800 H2  ; lower Z again
G90               ; absolute positioning

home.y:

G91               ; relative positioning
G1 Z10 F3000 H2   ; lift Z relative to current position
G1 Y-215 F1800 H1 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
G1 Y5 F1800       ; go back a few mm
G1 Y-215 F360 H1  ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
G1 Z-10 F1800 H2  ; lower Z again
G90               ; absolute positioning

home.z:

M98 Phomex.g	  ; home X first to move head outside
G91               ; relative positioning
G1 Z10 F3000 H2   ; lift Z relative 10mm

M584 Z2:3 U3 P4

G1 Z-205 U-205 F100 H1

M584 Z2:3 U3 P3

G90
G92 Z0

; lift Z after probing
G91
G1 Z10 F1000
G90

grizewald

@pauledd In your homez.g you have:

M584 Z2:3 U3 P4
G1 Z-205 U-205 F100 H1
M584 Z2:3 U3 P3

That should be:

M584 Z2 U3 P4
G1 Z-205 U-205 F100 H1
M584 Z2:3 P3

pauledd

@grizewald
Thanks a lot! I changed the lines to your suggestions.

If I now HOME-Z and I trigger the left endstop the right stepper stops moving and the left stepper keeps moving until I trigger the right endstop.

And vice versa if I trigger the the right endstop first the left stepper stops moving and the right stepper keeps moving until I trigger the left endstop.

So the behaviour is now much more kind of correct but exactly the opposite of what I expected, that is to say left endstop stops left stepper, right endstop stops right stepper. I double checked that I didnt twist the endstops accidentally but they are in the correct socket as drawn in the image above.
Shall I twist them simply to make them behave correctly or is there still somewhere a misconfiguration perceivable

grizewald

@pauledd I'd just try swapping them and see if it works!

pauledd

Seems to work, will test extensively tomorrow but I am quite optimistic, thanks so far

grizewald

Good news!

dc42

@pauledd said in Anycubic I3 Mega Mod questions:

Yes, I consider that if everything else works perfectly.

14.3A is not a problem for the Duet. It's normal for fuses to get hot when you run them close to rated current.

pauledd

@dc42 said in Anycubic I3 Mega Mod questions:

@pauledd said in Anycubic I3 Mega Mod questions:

Yes, I consider that if everything else works perfectly.

14.3A is not a problem for the Duet. It's normal for fuses to get hot when you run them close to rated current.

Thanks, that would have been the next question today, to order a SSD or a Mosfet Module. So I can now put that money into something else.

One more question. Is it somehow harmful to the drivers to move any of the axis
by hand (of cause disabled corresponding steppers prior with M18...)?

I ask because it is kind of routine to level the Anycubic bed by hand, I've done this since years and its standard procedure with the old Anycubic mainboard and I do not consider yet to upgrade to Z probing sensors because I had no problems levelling by hand...

grizewald

@pauledd said in Anycubic I3 Mega Mod questions:

One more question. Is it somehow harmful to the drivers to move any of the axis
by hand (of cause disabled corresponding steppers prior with M18...)?

I'm sure dc42 will correct me if I'm mistaken, but as long as the printer and the Duet are powered, there's no problem moving the bed by hand.

When it's not powered, make sure you move the bed slowly. The stepper motors, like all motors, are actually generators if you spin them and moving the bed quickly while the machine is not powered on will generate enough voltage to make the LCD display light up. I believe that the danger is here when the machine is not powered and the rest of the circuitry is not set up to cope with the generated voltage.

On all my machines, I try to avoid any rapid manual axis movement when they are not powered up.

pauledd

I did a lot of "Homings" today and the Z-axis didn't crash in the endstops again. I consider this Anycubic to Anyduet conversion as success!

The rest is just optimizing, putting all the stuff together an waiting for delivery of new cables. Thanks a lot for your help.

dc42

@pauledd said in Anycubic I3 Mega Mod questions:

One more question. Is it somehow harmful to the drivers to move any of the axis
by hand (of cause disabled corresponding steppers prior with M18...)?

It can be harmful if you move the stepper motors quickly, especially if the Duet is not powered. So move them slowly.