Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.

Sindarius

@rilot I pulled down the Workbee Control and took a look at it. It looks like they are generating a probe.g macro on the fly based off those settings when you click probe corner. Since not everyone uses an xyz touch probe I may look into making something like this a plugin. I'll start looking at the gcode to see what needs to be done to generate the macros. The one item that popped out in one of the macros it generated was that it uses P999 for creating a tool and I believe from reading the new limit is 49. Didn't dig too much further into other differences.

rilot

That's great. Thanks for your efforts with this.

too

Hey @Sindarius, great work!
We have been looking for a way to clean up the interface for our concrete printers for a while now!

However, we still have an extruder axis that we need to control, do you think it will be possible to activate the CNC DWC with the nice work coordinate system handler and the big DRO also in FFF mode? (Or also show E axes in the jog button overview?)

Thanks a lot!

Sindarius

@too the problem is that the cnc specific pages have had things like the extruder removed since they aren’t needed in cnc applications. It would likely come down to making a plugin that can bring both worlds together in a custom dashboard.

too

@Sindarius Hmm.. I don't know about the inner workings of the DWC, but couldn't it be an option in settings to "show E axis control interface"?
Or would @dc42 have to ass something like this through the firmware?

Sindarius

@too Axes buttons on the dashboard are driven by the Object Model under Move > Axes. Extruders are in their own area in the Object Model. At some point I could look at bringing in extruders as E# axes but that would not be a focus for me at this moment.

Alpenprinter

I did not manage to install the CNC Webcontrol. The duetwebcontrol_sd.zip can be uploaded under „system“, the files are unzipped, but then nothing happens.
What is my mistake?

Sindarius

@Alpenprinter

Do you have your machine configured for CNC?

There should be an M453 somewhere in your config to enable CNC mode.

weed2all

@Alpenprinter you need to put M453 to activate cnc mode and with that the dwc for cnc will appear!!

Alpenprinter

@Sindarius said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

M453

You are the best! Looking great!

Could s.o. please post the config.g and the homing files, for a e axis mill, so I have a starting point for configuration?

neilo

Hi All, hope you're well. I'm getting my head into this and have a couple of [newbie] questions:

I'm setting up a z-probe but there is no z probe value on display - should I do the the calibration on the classic DWC then switch over to CNC? Same applies for endstop switches I guess.
The set work Xyz button: does that link to a macro or does is just trigger a G92 command?
Really think this is a great project!
Thanks,
Neil

Sindarius

@neilo said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

Hi All, hope you're well. I'm getting my head into this and have a couple of [newbie] questions:

I'm setting up a z-probe but there is no z probe value on display - should I do the the calibration on the classic DWC then switch over to CNC? Same applies for endstop switches I guess.

Those are items that will be addressed in a future version of the DWC-CNC ui.

The set work Xyz button: does that link to a macro or does is just trigger a G92 command?

It is issuing a G10 L20 command to set the WCS.

My understanding and someone please correct me if I am wrong G92 changes all of the WCS so I avoided it in this case.

Really think this is a great project!
Thanks,
Neil

dc42

G92 does not affect WCS offsets.

neilo

Awesome thanks both!

cjm

I’ve been using the preview version for a few jobs and find it a big improvement on the standard DWC for CNC. A couple of thoughts from this experience are:

The X and Y are displayed to 1 decimal place. For me it would be useful to be able to see 2 decimal places, perhaps selectable as a machine specific option, or maybe just on the DRO plug-in screen?

In the jog plug-in screen, buttons to set X,Y and Z to zero in the current work coordinate system would be very useful (as has been mentioned by others).

However, perhaps a better option might be to provide access to macro buttons on the right hand side of either the jog screen or DRO screen and then we can define our own macros to set XY, do Z-probing etc.?

Sindarius

@cjm Thank you for the feedback. As mentioned some of these items are on my todo list. The extra decimal places make sense to me as well. I will play with the jog control a bit more. Probably switch the home buttons out and put in a home machine and go to zero set of buttons.

Adamfilip

Great Job!

My suggestions:
JOG - Add incremental or Continuous movement
JOG - Right click on buttons to adjust movement amounts

DRO - Increase frequency of updates and Increase to 2 decimal places
DRO - show conversion under smaller each in inches 0.001"

Sindarius

@Adamfilip Thanks for the feedback.

I need to look further into continuous movement. I tried some experiments with it and the problem that I ran into is that it tends to overshoot because the gcode commands are queued. The other jog control plugin that I wrote for gamepads has a similar issue.

As far as frequency that is driven by the DWC getting updates from the Duet. Under machine specific you can adjust the frequency of updates (Default is 250ms). Lowering that number will increase the number of updates which will cause the UI to refresh quicker.

wilriker

@Sindarius said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

I need to look further into continuous movement. I tried some experiments with it and the problem that I ran into is that it tends to overshoot because the gcode commands are queued. The other jog control plugin that I wrote for gamepads has a similar issue.

An idea that just came to my mind: how about a user-switch to select between incremental and continuous movement and the latter will accumulate all jog commands until the user stops sending movement commands for e.g. 1s (possibly configurable). While this time show a small indicator on where the journey will end and only send the movement once this "presetting" is done?

Not sure if it's a good idea to do it like that. But I wanted to toss it into the ring.

Sindarius

@wilriker I do something similar to what mention with my gamepad jogging plugin. When you first hold down a control on the game pad the first few moves stutter a little before moving at a smooth pace.

The CNC control I have personally used the most uses a USB connection so it doesn't have to worry about packet travel.

It's worth playing with it some more, I do understand the desire for continuous jogging especially on larger machines.

https://github.com/Sindarius/DWC_GamepadJogger_Plugin