Random issues first boot

[Mysta]

@t3p3tony Any idea on the independent motors? If the head is not centered and it homes it stops at the first motor to be triggered and the other two do as well regardless of where they are. Is that a matter of sensitivity?

[T3P3Tony]

@Mysta i am afraid i don't. It might be sensitivity or something else.

I migth be able to try this a delta tomorrow if i can finish a couple of urgent tasks. Otherwise @dc42 probably knows the answer!

[Mysta]

@t3p3tony

For what it's worth these are my motors for the towers:
https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/3d-printer/nema17-stepper-motor-3/

Noticed they have 4.2V which is slightly higher than the 4V max in the guide?

So after reading through the sensorless homing guide - does the S2(default) threshold mean 200 full steps a second?(and 3 = 300?) Trying to kinda do calculations based on this.

[Mysta]

@DjDemonD What motors do you use on your build?

[DjDemonD]

On the cylinder delta which uses sensorless homing I'm using the motors I had left over from my old I3 rework I started off 3D printing with about 3 years ago. They are 17HS8401 motors please see here http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?178,802910,803287#msg-803287 that machine uses leadscrews so its running 400 (micro)steps/mm.

[Mysta]

@djdemond said in Random issues first boot:

On the cylinder delta which uses sensorless homing I'm using the motors I had left over from my old I3 rework I started off 3D printing with about 3 years ago. They are 17HS8401 motors please see here http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?178,802910,803287#msg-803287 that machine uses leadscrews so its running 400 (micro)steps/mm.

Ahh then it's a little different since I use belts.

[DjDemonD]

Yes, If anything I'd say the lack of any real elasticity in the leadscrew driven system, with antibacklash nuts, and the carriages coming to rest against fairly hard stops, makes the stall detect work fairly well. My Z accel is just 50 and jerk 10 which was mainly to do with getting the piezo probe working within what is mechanically a noisy machine, but this does seem to help.

I haven't tried it on a belt driven delta yet, as I have endstops already on my other machines, and cannot see a good case to remove them. I will try it if I build a new machine, I just won't bother with endstops.

[dc42]

On the wiki page on configuring sensorless homing, I give an example of a macro file that I used to test sensorless homing on my Kossel. I suggest you start with that file. Once you have it working, you can simplify it and move the remaining commands into homedelta.g.

[Mysta]

@dc42 said in Random issues first boot:

On the wiki page on configuring sensorless homing, I give an example of a macro file that I used to test sensorless homing on my Kossel. I suggest you start with that file. Once you have it working, you can simplify it and move the remaining commands into homedelta.g.

Yeah That's what I was using, couldn't get consistent results. It either triggered too early(only 1 axis) or wouldn't move. I think my motors may just be not good for this case, as linked above.

Here's my first print though, 100mm/s pla.

[dc42]

If it triggers too early or immediately (doesn't move), increase the stall detection threshold. That's the S parameter in the M915 command.