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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 

      2020-09-26 20:34:56 Event logging started
2020-09-26 20:35:36 Event logging stopped
2020-09-26 20:35:36 Event logging started
2020-09-26 20:37:30 Error: Bad command: :40 M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-26 20:40:06 Error: M409: expected string expression
2020-09-26 20:41:34 Error: Bad command: M<09 K"job" F"v"
2020-09-26 20:44:02 Warning: M9: Command is not supported
2020-09-26 20:46:18 Error: M409: control character in string
2020-09-26 20:49:23 Finished printing file 0:/gcodes/Test Prints - Calibration/support_test.gcode, print time was 0h 26m
2020-09-26 21:13:55 Event logging stopped
2020-09-26 22:00:42 Event logging started
2020-09-26 22:03:36 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:03:40 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:03:44 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:03:48 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:03:52 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:03:56 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:00 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:04 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:08 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:12 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:16 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:20 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:24 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:28 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:32 Warning: M489: Command is not supported
2020-09-26 22:04:32 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:04:36 Error: Attempting to extrude with no tool selected.
2020-09-26 22:07:36 Error: Bad command: O<09 F"d99f"
2020-09-26 22:15:16 Error: M409: control character in string
2020-09-26 22:17:01 Error: M409: expected string expression

      Your error log shows some garbage commands. Either there is noise interfering or corruption on the SD card. Do you have another SD card to test with?

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      • theshaboboundefined
        theshabobo
        last edited by

        yes, let me try that.

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        • theshaboboundefined
          theshabobo
          last edited by

          I changed out the SD card with a new out of the box class 10 one. This was my output of the eventlog. The print did complete.

          2020-09-27 00:25:13 Event logging started
2020-09-27 00:25:35 Error: Bad command: J184 M409 F"d99f"*71
2020-09-27 00:26:15 Error: M409: control character in string
2020-09-27 00:26:56 Warning: the height map was loaded when the current Z=0 datum was not determined probing. This may result in a height offset.
2020-09-27 00:31:03 Error: M409: control character in string
2020-09-27 00:36:36 Error: Bad command: s73 M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:36:37 Error: Bad command: `M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:36:38 Error: Bad command: >0M409 F"d99f"+72
2020-09-27 00:36:56 Warning: M609: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 00:37:00 Error: Bad command: M<09 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:37:06 Error: Bad command: ^403 M409 F"d99f"*77
2020-09-27 00:37:11 Error: M409: control character in string
2020-09-27 00:37:55 Error: M409: expected string expression
2020-09-27 00:38:19 Warning: M40: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 00:38:26 Warning: M429: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 00:41:23 Error: M409: control character in string
2020-09-27 00:41:47 Error: M409: control character in string
2020-09-27 00:41:55 Warning: M429: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 00:45:03 Error: Bad command: $M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:48:07 Error: Bad command: O409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:48:23 Error: Bad command: O628 M409 F"d99f"*70
2020-09-27 00:49:36 Error: Bad command: `m409 F"d99f#*78
2020-09-27 00:51:28 Error: Bad command: < M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:53:12 Error: M409: control character in string
2020-09-27 00:53:52 Warning: M40: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 00:54:20 Error: Bad command: ?17 M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:54:48 Error: M4: Command is not supported in machine mode FFF
2020-09-27 00:55:40 Error: Bad command: `M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:57:00 Error: Bad command: `M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 00:58:32 Warning: M40: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 01:00:28 Error: M4: Command is not supported in machine mode FFF
2020-09-27 01:02:05 Error: M409: expected string expression
2020-09-27 01:02:53 Warning: M40: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 01:05:57 Error: Bad command: :91 M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 01:11:05 Error: M409: expected string expression
2020-09-27 01:12:05 Error: Bad command: 3 M409 K"job" F"v"
2020-09-27 01:14:26 Error: Bad command: 018 M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 01:15:22 Error: M409: expected string expression
2020-09-27 01:15:34 Error: M409: expected string expression
2020-09-27 01:17:58 Error: M4: Command is not supported in machine mode FFF
2020-09-27 01:18:34 Error: Bad command: (M409 K"job" F"v"
2020-09-27 01:20:38 Error: M409: expected string expression
2020-09-27 01:24:42 Error: Bad command: J1172 M409 F"d99f"*127
2020-09-27 01:26:48 Warning: M509: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 01:28:26 Error: Bad command: y M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 01:30:55 Error: M4: Command is not supported in machine mode FFF
2020-09-27 01:31:11 Error: Bad command: :0 M409 K"job" F"v"
2020-09-27 01:34:27 Warning: M40: Command is not supported
2020-09-27 01:36:11 Error: Bad command: 55 M409 F"d99f"
2020-09-27 01:37:53 Finished printing file 0:/gcodes/Printer Parts/Flying_Bondtech.gcode, print time was 1h 14m
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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Was this with a freshly uploaded gcode file or one that was copied over?

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            • theshaboboundefined
              theshabobo
              last edited by theshabobo

              It was a fresh g-code. I also tried a different print and it ended up giving the same Attempting to extrude error.

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman @theshabobo
                last edited by deckingman

                @theshabobo said in Error: attempting to extrude with no tool selected:

                Hi all. I just did the Duet 2 Wifi Upgrade on my printer and I am getting this error when I print any file generated by Simplify3D.

                Note: This issue only occurs with S3D, not any other Slicers.
                History: The printer was not having this issue with S3D before the Duet 2 Wifi conversion.

                This issue will happen at random points during any print. It starts the print fine, then at a random point it will throw this error. Even with the same file, it's random! I have had it happen halfway thru the 1st layer, or on the 10th layer, or the 50th while using the same .gcode file.

                There is only 1 extruder, labeled as T0. In the S3D Profile. T1 is the heated bed.

                So from the OP and stepping back from everything else that has been said in this thread, the issue is clearly to do with the gcode files that has been generated by S3D because of this statement (quote) "Note: This issue only occurs with S3D, not any other Slicers".

                Or more specifically, those S3D gcode files have commands which are inconsistent with RRF firmware because of this statement (quote) "The printer was not having this issue with S3D before the Duet 2 Wifi conversion".

                Therefore, the solution must lie in the gcode file so it might be an idea if the OP made that gcode file available, then we can see what commands are embedded which could be triggering the problem.

                This comment could be a clue (quote) "There is only 1 extruder, labeled as T0. In the S3D Profile. T1 is the heated bed."

                If S3D is putting T1 commands in the gcode file to control the heated bed, these commands will be interpreted by the duet firmware as being commands to select or control tool 1. But there is only a single tool defined in config.g so any "T1" commands will refer to a tool which does not exist. So switching to T1 is likely to trigger the error "attempting to extrude with no tool selected" because T1 does not exist.

                So my best guess at a fix (without seeing the gcode file) would be to correct whatever setting in S3D is causing T1 commands to be inserted in the gcode file.

                Edit - Or maybe the unsupported M40 and M429 commands the S3D is inserting in the gcode file are triggering the error. These need to be fixed in the slicer settings in any case.

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • theshaboboundefined
                  theshabobo
                  last edited by

                  @deckingman this has all my config files and a copy of the G-code.
                  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yvealx81yym4kqh/AACMONG_FHO9DB7TqGrw7dyia?dl=0

                  Also, Note. I tried using different slicers, and got the error in all of them.
                  Feel free to take a look and let me know if you can see what's happening.

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @theshabobo
                    last edited by deckingman

                    @theshabobo Ahh so it's changed from being something specific the S3D as per your first post, to being slicer agnostic. I'll take a look at the files later is I get chance. Meanwhile are you setting the slicer output "flavour" to RepRap" ?

                    EDIT - I've had a quick gander at the gcode file and none of the bad commands that are being reported exist in the file itself. There is only one "T" command which is "T0" at the beginning of the file - exactly as it should be. So my take on that is that the file data is somehow being corrupted as it is being read from the card. I have no idea why that should be. So it's over to someone more knowledgable that I. You could try disconnecting the PanelDue - at least that would narrow it down a bit.

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                      T3P3Tony administrators
                      last edited by

                      If it is data corruption to/from the SD card, one way to check if the SD card has an issue is to download the gcode file from the SD card using DWC and compare it to the original file that was uploaded.

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                      • theshaboboundefined
                        theshabobo
                        last edited by

                        @deckingman Yes, it is RepRap. I disconnected the Paneldue and was able to do a 2.5 hour print with no issues and no Bad commands appearing in the logs.

                        I will be changing the PanelDue cable to a shielded one later today (after work) and trying again.

                        @T3P3Tony I don't believe it is an SD card issue, or file corruption issue as I tried with a new card and new file. I also verified the files are proper when compared to eachother.

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                        • lifeformundefined
                          lifeform
                          last edited by

                          @theshabobo hello, sorry for asking directly
                          did you solved it? i also have this problem, i change to stp lan cable and this problem still happened.
                          any tips ?

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                          • lifeformundefined
                            lifeform @dc42
                            last edited by

                            @dc42 said in Error: attempting to extrude with no tool selected:

                            must be no more than 0.1 ohms per conductor

                            hello, sorry for asking. i am not electronic guy so i alittle bit blank with 0.1ohms per conductor. what this means

                            i check i use stp lan cable to do it and i check in the internet it is have resistence about 150ohms i cannot use this cable?

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @lifeform
                              last edited by

                              @lifeform That would be measured with a multimeter.

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                              • Surgikillundefined
                                Surgikill
                                last edited by Surgikill

                                @theshabobo @Phaedrux @deckingman I'm having the exact same issue as described here. Same garbage commands, and tool being de-selected.

                                Current firmware versions:
                                Board: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                                Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.2.2 (2021-02-11)
                                Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.23

                                Has there been any other instances of this? I am using prusaslic3r and was not having this issue before the upgrade to RRF V3, which I performed a few days ago.

                                I am using a 4 pin paneldue cable. There is only one small section where it is near a stepper motor (probably 5mm cross section) and the rest of the cable is in an aluminum extrusion, so it should be shielded.

                                There may be interference somewhere, but I think that would have shown up before the upgrade to RRF V3

                                Baud rate for PanelDue is 57600

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Surgikill
                                  last edited by

                                  @Surgikill said in Error: attempting to extrude with no tool selected:

                                  There may be interference somewhere, but I think that would have shown up before the upgrade to RRF V3

                                  V3 definitely seems more sensitive to interference. You can try lowering the baud rate to make it more tolerant.

                                  What paneldue firmware version are you using?

                                  @Surgikill said in Error: attempting to extrude with no tool selected:

                                  Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.23

                                  Unrelated, but the wifi version for 3.2.2 is 1.25.

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                                  • Surgikillundefined
                                    Surgikill @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux Paneldue firmware is 3.2.11

                                    I'll look into updating wifi server. I thought that all was updated with the combined firmware when I updated to 3.2.2.

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                                    • Surgikillundefined
                                      Surgikill @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux Looks like the baud rate change might have fixed it. Any recommendations on wire? I want to re-wire some of my stepper motors with shielded wire to cut down on interference, can't seem to find any good wire.

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Any decent gauge wire should do. I like to do a braid or twist which seems to help with crosstalk without shielding. I hear people mention silicone wire as nice to work with. I've only ever used some cheap spools of 22 gauge wire on amazon for low current DC applications. Nothing special. And for AC wiring some larger gauge stuff from the local auto parts store.

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                                        • Surgikillundefined
                                          Surgikill @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux Well I lied, still getting communication issues. I replaced the SD card with a brand new one, and I moved the stepper motor wire that was near the paneldue wire so there is 4+ inches of separation. The only other wire near it is a mechanical endstop switch. Any other ideas? The paneldue does not have a SD card in it.

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                                            How long is the wire run?

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