Setting the max temperature with M143 helped and I am up and running.
Thanks for the help, and thanks for a great platform.
--bill
Billwhit
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RE: Heater config struggles
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RE: Heater config struggles
@dc42 They are very stable after 75C but at room temp they flop around to almost +/-15C.
The TValues were provided by the manufacturer.
I have only had the patience to get all three of them up to 300C, and that took almost an hour of sitting by the console and resetting the faults. I have made a couple test prints at 250 and the sensors are stable.
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RE: Heater config struggles
@Phaedrux
The heaters are 110VAC controlled by 3 DC-AC SSR relays.
They are 450,250, and 100 watts, respectively.If I start from room temp, we get the "temperature not reached" error.
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RE: Heater config struggles
Thank you for the information!
My M143 is back in.
Here is my config.g
The heaters and thermistors are custom from my extruder vendor. -
Heater config struggles
I have a pellet extruder with 3 heaters. Each heater and thermistor is rated up to 500C.
The sensors are not stable at room temperature, so I have been running the heater tuning by starting at a higher temperature (75-100C). I have been able to complete tuning up to 250 (M303 h2 S250) but any higher and the tuning will time out before completing.
I cannot set an active temperature for any of these heaters without a half hour of heating fault->reset fault->set heater active cycles.
The tuning parameters are not right, because I get overshoots when trying to go from 240-250, for example.We no longer have a simple command to tell RRF that the max temp for this sensor/heater is 480C (M143).
Can anyone suggest some configuration or tuning tricks to get these heaters tuned properly?Running a Duet 2 ethernet board, RRF 3.1.1.
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RE: Temp Sensor Madness
Things are working.
I added ferrite cores on the motor output lines of the external stepper drivers, to help reduce the noise. I made sure all the cable shields, power supplies, and drivers are on the same ground. And finally I wrapped the TC in a layer of kapton tape to make sure it wasn't grounding against the nozzle housing. -
RE: Temp Sensor Madness
I failed to mention the basics:
Firmware Version: 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
Web Interface Version: 1.22.6
This is an IDEX sort of mechanism with 2 independent X drives on a moving Y gantry.
There are external stepper drivers Wantai DQM542 and the motors are big Nema23's with part number 23HS45-4204S.
I replaced the Arduino/ramps hardware with the Duet board, and replaced the overstuffed direct-wired electronics cabinet with a larger industrial enclosure. -
RE: Temp Sensor Madness
UPDATE: No chance to apply a 'scope to look at the signals, so I am using lower-tech methods. I have reverted back to the thermocouple daughterboard and my previous sensors. I was able to get a good solid temperature reading from the Duet, but only if I disabled all my external stepper drivers by disconnecting their power. As soon as I connected power to even one driver, the temperature returns to 2000C, and the fault LED on the daughter board flashes about once per 1-2 seconds.
I will continue to seek the interference source(s) that are preventing me from running and will let you know the results. -
RE: Temp Sensor Madness
The cap(s) didn't help. We are going to try getting a scope on the cable this weekend and see what is happening.
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RE: Temp Sensor Madness
I made some more tests. Replaced the CAT5 with some 22gauge shielded cable with stranded vs solid conductors. Resistance of my cable with my multimeter seems to be 7-8 Ohms on each individual conductor. I have the 2-wire PT100 wired up in 4-wire configuration with the jumpers removed on the daughterboard. I still get a solid 2000C temperature, even with the included resistor instead of the sensor. If I shorten the cable, the sensor reads correctly.
I am unable to shorten the cable enough to make a difference with my machine geometry.
Is there a way to introduce a cable length compensation for temperature sensors?
Other ideas?