Some minor issues with The Duet WiFi

dc42

Does your extruder use a Bowden tube; and if so, how long is it?

TKWARD

Bowden tube is 400mm long … tried using regular and capricorn tubing. No difference.

I have done some tests this morning.... I reset the extrusion percentage to 100%, and removed coasting etc, left retraction at 3mm, and tried pressure advance on it's own, as well as reducing print speed.

Currently running 95% extrusion rate ... with these settings
M207 S2.5 R-0.1 F5000 T5000 Z0.0
M572 D0 S0.9

No Z hop, but speeds still at 10000mm per min ..... dropping the speed has ZERO effect... in fact it makes blobbing slightly worse at the 90 degree corners.

I had to push up the pressure advance to what I think is an insane level (0.9) to get rid of the problems.

My thoughts is that Pressure Advance value being so high is a symptom of accel and Jerk settings ? Am i missing something ?

Keith

timcurtis67

You should dial in pressure advance without retracts. Then once you have good results start adding retracts to find the right setting.

dc42

With 400mm Bowden tube you will probably need about 5mm retraction if you don't use pressure advance, and 3 or 4mm if you do. Less if you use Capricorn tubing instead of regular 2mm id PTFE. As Tim says, it's safest to tune pressure advance with little or no retraction to get corners etc. looking good first; then add retraction to get rid of the tiny blobs you get just before a travel move.

TKWARD

The best I have now achieved is with

M207 S3 R0.4 F5000 T5000 Z0.0
M572 D0 S1.7

The pressure advance seems insanely high …. Is this indicative of needing to change acceleration and Jerk settings ?

If I add more retraction (S) I need to compensate with more (R) .... So, i left it at this manageable value.

Seems to be working well at 10000 mm per min.

Thanks to you all for your help .... I'll post when I have some pictures to upload.

Keith

biscuitlad

I'd be interested in your resolution of this, as I have exactly the same edge issues after my rebuild!

dc42

Yes that is a lot of pressure advance. It implies that there is a lot of slop in the filament path between the extruder drive and the hot end.

TKWARD

David, I will try the capricorn again this evening, and also reposition the extruder closer to printhead to see if that helps.

Biscuitlad, I have a theory that DC42 is right …. but, also another thing popped into my head. I was scanning the extruder info on the wiki, and I realized that Im not using a pancake motor, Im using an 84oz motor .... so, torque is high, and acceleration low because i have lowered the motor current. ( pancakes should arrive tomorrow ).

I'll keep you both posted.

TKWARD

Here's some video I just took …

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GDzcxKx8XH9QjVW4NdNx2nEKx1u6OLBt/view?usp=sharing

biscuitlad

Well, maybe I'm missing something but the quality looks pretty good on the vid?

I have to disengage from the debate unfortunately, until I can be sure there's no z wobble on my set up. Noticed a regular pattern on my test cubes that can only mean one thing. It's an unpleasant re-occurrence of something I thought I'd cured several years ago…