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    • DCundefined
      DC
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      Another thing I noticed today: After moving the Y axis the motors will emit a certain high frequency sound while idling.
      After a while that sound stops and then I'm yet again able to move the X axis.

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @DC
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        @dc said in X Axis stops working after moving Y:

        Another thing I noticed today: After moving the Y axis the motors will emit a certain high frequency sound while idling.
        After a while that sound stops and then I'm yet again able to move the X axis.

        I notice that in one of the M584 commands you have Y1:3.

        Below that you have M584 P3.

        That's two axes Y and P referencing the same stepper. Also I have no idea what the period after the P would mean.

        Is that intentional?

        Frederick

        Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits, a custom MarkForged style, a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY from kit and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.6

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        • DCundefined
          DC @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt I have no idea what that is supposed to to. I can't remember adding it but I might have copy pasted a bit too much when I was setting up the dual Y axis.

          I'll try to remove it as soon as I have a few minutes, thanks!

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @fcwilt
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            @fcwilt P allows you to hide axis so they aren't visible in DWC https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m584-set-drive-mapping
            In this instance it isn't required.

            @DC can you post your full config?
            I don't see why M669 K0 etc is required on a standard workbee setup

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators @DC
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              @dc said in X Axis stops working after moving Y:

              Remove this line (unnecessary):

              M584 P3.

              Remove U16 from this line (potentially confusing firmware):

              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 I1 ; Configure microstepping

              Remove this line (unnecessary, potentially confusing firmware):

              M669 K0 X1:0:0:0 Y0:1:0:1 Z0:0:1:0

              If that doesn't help, post your full config.g and any macros run from it. Also send M98 P"config.g" and post response.

              Ian

              Cartesian bed-slinger with Duet 3 Mini 5+ WiFi and 1LC : RRP Fisher Delta v1 with Duet 2 Maestro : TronXY X5S with Duet 3 MB6HC and Roto toolboard

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @jay_s_uk
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                @jay_s_uk said in X Axis stops working after moving Y:

                @fcwilt P allows you to hide axis so they aren't visible in DWC https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m584-set-drive-mapping

                Thanks - I had forgotten about that.

                Frederick

                Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits, a custom MarkForged style, a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY from kit and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.6

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                • DCundefined
                  DC @droftarts
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                  Remove U16 from this line (potentially confusing firmware):

                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 I1 ; Configure microstepping

                  Remove this line (unnecessary, potentially confusing firmware):

                  M669 K0 X1:0:0:0 Y0:1:0:1 Z0:0:1:0

                  Woohoo! That seems to have been it - I'm now able to move all 3 axis again and again and again... Thanks a lot for the suggestions everyone!

                  Can anybody explain to me what the proper setting for M350 should be or how I figure it out?
                  And what is the purpose of M669? Why shouldn't kinematics be set to cartesian on my Workbee?

                  And last but not least; Does anyone happen to have a link to a full 3.4 config for a setup matching mine?

                  Sincerely,
                  Daniel

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @DC
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                    @dc said in X Axis stops working after moving Y:

                    Can anybody explain to me what the proper setting for M350 should be or how I figure it out?

                    Well generally you need the letters for each axis, in your case X, Y, Z, and the letters for your extruders (usually E0 and/or E1).

                    Some folks put one M350 for the axes and another for the extruders.

                    I've never used anything but 16x on the axes and extruders and I1 to enable interpolation. The reason for always using 16x was the the boards I started with, Duet 2 WiFi, only supported interpolation for 16x.

                    If there is some really good reason for using other than 16x I have not read about it. Others may have a better understanding and will chime in.

                    And what is the purpose of M669? Why shouldn't kinematics be set to cartesian on my Workbee?

                    M669 K0 is a quick way of setting the X, Y, Z parameters for a Cartesian. You can use X, Y, Z if you know what they should be for a given kinematics. But having K0 and the X, Y, Z parameters is redundant and possible troublesome if the K value specifies one set of X, Y, Z values and you specify another set with the X, Y, Z parameters.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits, a custom MarkForged style, a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY from kit and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.6

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                    • DCundefined
                      DC
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                      @fcwilt said in X Axis stops working after moving Y:

                      I've never used anything but 16x on the axes and extruders and I1 to enable interpolation. The reason for always using 16x was the the boards I started with, Duet 2 WiFi, only supported interpolation for 16x.

                      16x it is 🙂

                      M669 K0 is a quick way of setting the X, Y, Z parameters for a Cartesian. You can use X, Y, Z if you know what they should be for a given kinematics. But having K0 and the X, Y, Z parameters is redundant and possible troublesome if the K value specifies one set of X, Y, Z values and you specify another set with the X, Y, Z parameters.

                      That makes sense, thanks for the explanation!

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators @DC
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                        @dc cartesian is also the default kinematics, no M669 needed.

                        Ian

                        Cartesian bed-slinger with Duet 3 Mini 5+ WiFi and 1LC : RRP Fisher Delta v1 with Duet 2 Maestro : TronXY X5S with Duet 3 MB6HC and Roto toolboard

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