Duet 3 BLTouch macros not being called?

Danal

Yeah, that's very bizarre. I run a toolchanger, that auto-invokes macros all over the place, and they are all working fine on a pi.

You said you are running RC6. I don't believe it will make a difference... but RC9 is out. You can do

sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade

on the Pi and it will update everything, even load the firmware on board 0 (if you have more than one, you will need to M997 B1, and so forth).

Again, probably won't make a diff... but...

Demi

Danal, I really appreciate all the help, and Im sorry to retread our other thread. I download the config, and check the boxes to get the firmware, and upload the zip file, but Im still on RC7. The only time I have seen it upgrade is when I used Bossa. Im a special kind of special I think.

Danal

@Demi said in Duet 3 BLTouch macros not being called?:

Danal, I really appreciate all the help, and Im sorry to retread our other thread. I download the config, and check the boxes to get the firmware, and upload the zip file, but Im still on RC7. The only time I have seen it upgrade is when I used Bossa. Im a special kind of special I think.

Are you set up to SSH into your Pi?

Demi

I am, but I am no longer using the Pi. Just running stand alone.

dc42

@Demi, this thread is getting long and you have changed configurations. Please upgrade to 3.01-RC10, which should be straightforward via DWC. Then check what problem(s) remain and list them along with your current configuration in a new post in this thread.

Demi

@dc42

Thanks for the reply DC. I dont experience any issues when running standalone mode.
I was just trying to get a better understanding of how the system works. As I am no longer running a the DuetPi setup, I no longer have any issues with macros getting called. The current setup is the Duet 3 running in stand alone connected via ethernet, with a Repetier Pi server connected via USB for a touch screen interface, with the Repetier server using wifi to connect to the network.

The only issue I am having, is probably a user error issue. I tried to upload the firmware (Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin) via the DWC. It didnt recognize it. Deleted it uploaded again, no joy. I fired up Bossa and it uploaded perfectly. I do not understand what I am doing wrong. Is there documentation the outlines the different firmware files and their use?

SDuet3Firmware_EXP3HC.bin - I assume this is for the expansion board.

Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin - for the mainboard upload via Bossa and DWC?

Duet3Firmware_TOOL1LC.bin - No idea.

Duet3_SDiap_MB6HC.bin - I was told this is to allow the board to update itself, but I can find no information for usage.

DuetWebControl-SD-2.1.5.zip - I am 98.64% sure this is for making the stand alone or pi SD card, but it doesnt look to be an image that would be used via etcher.

I dont want to bother everyone if there is documentation to explain this, but I have been through the guides front and back and havent found an explanation.

Phaedrux

It's no bother at all. This is what the forum is for.

Now that you have updated the firmware successfully with bossa, are you able to upload the firmware file again via DWC and have it successfully detect and install?

@Demi said in Duet 3 BLTouch macros not being called?:

SDuet3Firmware_EXP3HC.bin - I assume this is for the expansion board.

Yes.

@Demi said in Duet 3 BLTouch macros not being called?:

Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin - for the mainboard upload via Bossa and DWC?

yes.

@Demi said in Duet 3 BLTouch macros not being called?:

Duet3Firmware_TOOL1LC.bin - No idea.

This is for the tool boards.

@Demi said in Duet 3 BLTouch macros not being called?:

Duet3_SDiap_MB6HC.bin - I was told this is to allow the board to update itself, but I can find no information for usage.

This is a file that helps the firmware program the new firmware. It's probably a lot more than that, but that's all you really need to know. It just needs to be present.

@Demi said in Duet 3 BLTouch macros not being called?:

DuetWebControl-SD-2.1.5.zip - I am 98.64% sure this is for making the stand alone or pi SD card, but it doesnt look to be an image that would be used via etcher.

This is just a zip file that contains all the HTML, etc files for the web interface. It should be detected by the DWC and extract it to the /www folder all on it's own to update itself.

What DWC version is currently installed as shown in the settings tab?

Demi

@Phaedrux
OH! Wow, that cleared up all kinds of stuff. I was just uploading the firmware file (singular) that I thought I needed.

Board: Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0
Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC 3.01-RC10 (2020-04-25b3)
Duet Web Control 2.0.7

Okay so I will try uploading the DWC, firmware, and IAP and see what happens...

Everything worked! Im now on DWC 2.1.5 and the firmware updated just fine from DWC. Thank you so much. Where is the information that explained all this? I do really appreciate the help, but I would like to not ask questions that are in the reading, but I really cant find this guidance anywhere. Am I missing something?
https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Installing_and_Updating_Firmware
doesnt answer these questions (or does and Im just extra special) is the dozuki intended as a jumping off point and the forum is the primary guidence?

Danal

At the link you posted, first paragraph is (bolding here only):

This section is for Duet Maestro and Duet 2 (WiFi and Ethernet) firmware only. The Duet 3 stand-alone process is similar; the Duet 3 + Pi process is quite different. See Getting Started with Duet 3 for more information.

Since you have a Duet3 + Pi, the bolded part applies, and you should be doing the things at Getting Started with Duet 3

Does that help any?

Having said that... that second link does cover firmware only. I'm not sure there is any ONE place that says "update all these things and keep them in sync".

As the Pi matures, the "sudo apt update" and upgrade commands are doing a better and better job of doing everything, keeping all in sync, and this problem will fade away... at least for us Pi users.

Phaedrux

I think things will improve quite a bit once 3.01 is final. Documentation will be finalized around updating and the files needed should be a bit more static.

Demi

@Phaedrux
I want to thank everyone here, it seems to be a really amazing community. What I have blindly achieved with the duet on old chinese crap hardware has blown my mind. I think its really hard for well versed people to make guides for noob window lickers. Maybe I can give back a little bit and contribute from a tech savvy but largely stupid point of view? Is there a way I can help? Maybe the walls I hit I can help document?

Phaedrux

@Demi said in Duet 3 BLTouch macros not being called?:

Maybe I can give back a little bit and contribute from a tech savvy but largely stupid point of view? Is there a way I can help? Maybe the walls I hit I can help document?

Absolutely. It is challenging to be self aware of all of the things we take for granted when trying to document something technical.

If you want to write something up about your headlong dive into it, please do. If you want to do a guide, that's totally welcome. If you just want to give a list of areas you found obtuse, that's cool too.