Calibration G32 does not work

dc42

@nickpgre:

Someone correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't the line below

G30 P12 X0 Y28.65 Z-99999 S6

be something like below for the 13 points?
G30 P12 X0 Y28.65 Z-99999 S13

Hello,

It is assumed that the "S" is for the type of calibration. An S6 adjust homing switch corrections, delta radius, and X and Y tower position offsets

Correct. The number of probe points must be at least as high as that S parameter.

dc42

1. Which firmware version are you using?

2. What M558 and G31 commands do you have in config.g?

3. Does the bltouch probe all the points when you run G32?

4. After running G32, are there any messages in the GCode Console page of DWC?

adri84dj

@dc42:

1. Which firmware version are you using?

2. What M558 and G31 commands do you have in config.g?

3. Does the bltouch probe all the points when you run G32?

4. After running G32, are there any messages in the GCode Console page of DWC?

1. Which firmware version are you using?
1.21

2. What M558 and G31 commands do you have in config.g?
; Z probe BLtouch
M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z0 H5 F2000 T2500
G31 X0 Y-2.64 Z1.48 P25

3. Does the bltouch probe all the points when you run G32?
Yes

4. After running G32, are there any messages in the GCode Console page of DWC?
No message

And another anomaly that I have also detected recently has happened to me with this firmware that the config.g file has disappeared from the micro sd repeatedly.

dc42

I can see a few things that are for much older firmware than 1.21 although I don't think they should cause the problem you describe.

In the M558 command in config.g:

change P5 to P9
remove the X0 Y0 Z0 commands
change H5 to H20 until your calibration is good
F2000 is very high, I suggest you reduce it to F500 until you have this working. Later you can test the bltouch reproducibility at various speeds.

In bed.g:

remove the G31 command. Note that this will place the Z probe at the point in bed.g, nit the nozzle, so the probe points will shift 2.64mm in the Y direction. So check that they are all still on the bed and reachable by the bltouch.
remove both M98 commands
remove the G30 dummy probe command

Please check on the Settings General page of DWC that all 3 firmware versions are 1.21.

If the config.g file has disappeared, that suggests a problem with the SD card or the associated subsystem. It may be wise to try another SD card.

HTH David

adri84dj

@dc42:

I can see a few things that are for much older firmware than 1.21 although I don't think they should cause the problem you describe.

In the M558 command in config.g:

change P5 to P9

remove the X0 Y0 Z0 commands

change H5 to H20 until your calibration is good

F2000 is very high, I suggest you reduce it to F500 until you have this working. Later you can test the bltouch reproducibility at various speeds.

In bed.g:

remove the G31 command. Note that this will place the Z probe at the point in bed.g, nit the nozzle, so the probe points will shift 2.64mm in the Y direction. So check that they are all still on the bed and reachable by the bltouch.

remove both M98 commands

remove the G30 dummy probe command

Please check on the Settings General page of DWC that all 3 firmware versions are 1.21.

If the config.g file has disappeared, that suggests a problem with the SD card or the associated subsystem. It may be wise to try another SD card.

HTH David

Perfect,

When I return home, I will make the changes suggested.

If I have any questions, I will ask you again.

Thanks and best regards

adri84dj

@dc42:

I can see a few things that are for much older firmware than 1.21 although I don't think they should cause the problem you describe.

In the M558 command in config.g:

change P5 to P9

remove the X0 Y0 Z0 commands

change H5 to H20 until your calibration is good

F2000 is very high, I suggest you reduce it to F500 until you have this working. Later you can test the bltouch reproducibility at various speeds.

In bed.g:

remove the G31 command. Note that this will place the Z probe at the point in bed.g, nit the nozzle, so the probe points will shift 2.64mm in the Y direction. So check that they are all still on the bed and reachable by the bltouch.

remove both M98 commands

remove the G30 dummy probe command

Please check on the Settings General page of DWC that all 3 firmware versions are 1.21.

If the config.g file has disappeared, that suggests a problem with the SD card or the associated subsystem. It may be wise to try another SD card.

HTH David

Hello,

I have made the changes and now it seems that the G32 calibration is running correctly.

On the other hand, when it says "remove the G30 dummy probe command" does it mean removing all G30 from the bed.g file?

As for the firmware, that's how I got it

Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi / Ethernet
Firmware Electronics: Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later
Firmware Version: 1.21 (2018-03-21)
Web Interface Version: 1.21

dc42

@adri84dj:

On the other hand, when it says "remove the G30 dummy probe command" does it mean removing all G30 from the bed.g file?

No, just the first one, which had the comment about it being a dummy probe on the previous line. That additional probe is only needed for the Mini Kossel Allen key type of probe.

It sounds like you are good to go! If you have copied the new M665 and M666 parameters into your config.g file, then you can reduce the M558 H parameter back to about 5 to speed up probing.

adri84dj

@dc42:

@adri84dj:

On the other hand, when it says "remove the G30 dummy probe command" does it mean removing all G30 from the bed.g file?

No, just the first one, which had the comment about it being a dummy probe on the previous line. That additional probe is only needed for the Mini Kossel Allen key type of probe.

It sounds like you are good to go! If you have copied the new M665 and M666 parameters into your config.g file, then you can reduce the M558 H parameter back to about 5 to speed up probing.

okay,

Thank you so much for everything

dc42

@adri84dj:

Thank you so much for everything

And thank you for buying a Duet!

bjoern85

Hello
Same problem here.
I try to calibrate my delta since a few days now.
Switched from Ramps 1.4 to duet ethernet and from 12 to 24 Volt

Here are my config files:

; bed.g
; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat Apr 21 2018 17:49:51 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)
M561 ; clear any bed transform
G28 ; home all towers
;M98 Pdeployprobe.g ; deploy mechanical Z probe
; Probe the bed at 3 peripheral and 0 halfway points, and perform 3-factor auto compensation
; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
G30 P0 X-32 Y132 H0.48 Z-99999 ;war ...
G30 P1 X68 Y-41 H0.13 Z-99999 ;war 0.03
G30 P2 X-117 Y-41 H0.07 Z-99999 ;war 0.07
G30 P3 X-32 Y17 H0 Z-99999 S4
; Use S-1 for measurements only, without calculations. Use S4 for endstop heights and Z-height only. Use S6 for full 6 factors
; If your Z probe has significantly different trigger heights depending on XY position, adjust the H parameters in the G30 commands accordingly. The value of each H parameter should be (trigger height at that XY position) - (trigger height at centre of bed)
;M98 Pretractprobe.g ; retract mechanical Z probe

; Configuration file for Duet Ethernet (firmware version 1.20 or newer)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat Apr 21 2018 17:49:51 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)

; General preferences
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M665 R265.11 L410.79 B116 H492.17 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
M666 X-3.98 Y0 Z-3.8 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

; Network
M550 PDelta RR Duet ; Set machine name
M540 PBE:xx:DE:xx:FE:xx ; Set MAC address
M552 P192.168.xxx.xxx S1 ; Enable network and set IP address
M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Set netmask
M554 P192.168.xxx.xxx ; Set gateway
M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
M586 P1 S1 ; Enable FTP
M586 P2 S1 ; Enable Telnet

; Drives
M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X200 Y200 Z200 E107 ; Set steps per mm
M566 X1800 Y1800 Z1800 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X2000 Y2000 Z2000 E1000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1300 Y1300 Z1300 E1400 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

; Axis Limits
M208 Z-0.5 S1 ; Set minimum Z

; Endstops
M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S3 ; Set endstops controlled by motor load detection

; Z-Probe
M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
M558 P9 X0 Y0 Z1 H10 F500 T2000 ; Set Z probe type and the dive height + speeds
G31 P25 Z0.76 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset (X32 Y-17) and trigger height
M557 R100 S20 ; Define mesh grid

; Heaters
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

; Fans
M106 P0 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P1 S0 I0 F4.7 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P2 S0 I0 F4.7 H-1 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Motor stall detection
;M915 X Y Z S10 F1 R1

; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

; Custom settings are not configured

Firmware is 1.21
No Display, just webinterface.
Following system files are present:
bed.g
cancel.g
config.g
config.g.bak
config.json
deployprobe.g
homedelta.g
iap.bin
iap4e.bin
pause.g
resume.g
resurrect.g
retractprobe.g
sleep.g
tfree0.g
tpost0.g
tpre0.g

I calculated the probe positions, to match the coordinates in a macro, to check, if the calibration has an effect.
it looks like the "H correction" makes no difference. No matter what i do.
Because i use a glass surface, i think it should be flat.
So endstop correction or tilt correction should be enough to meassure before i start a print.

Thank you for your time

dc42

When you run G32 to auto-calibrate:

Does the calibration operation report success?
If so, what deviation is reported, and what happens when you try to print?

bjoern85

Sorry for my late answer.

The deviation is zero after calibration:
Calibrated 4 factors using 4 points, deviation before 4.954 after 0.000
When i tried to print, the nozzle is to high/low always at the same areas.
Even when i changed an H-parameter to 0.8.
One thing is a bit strange. When i try to print, the intro line is always a bit higher than the rest of the first layer. I had this behaviour already with ramps.

Edit:
It looks, like this guy has the same problems as i:
https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/5175/duet-level-bed-and-g29-32

Edit2:
Inbetween i changed every of the three H-parameter between 0.5 and 1.5 milimeter and printed some small 10x10mm surfaces as close to the probe point as possible.
There is no visible difference between the prints.
Deviation is always more or less the same before and zero after calibration.
I think there is something in the firmware, that overrides the results.
which sys-files could i delete? are there some values which could be safed accidently to the eeprom?
I changed to 3 factor calibration but there was no visible difference.

dc42

You will always get zero deviation if the number of probe points is equal to the number of factors you calibrate. To get a better idea of how good the calibration is, use more probe points. Most people use 6 or 8 factor calibration.

bjoern85

Thank you. I will try more calibration points or factors next time.
My idea was, to calibrate not to many factors every time. Just the ones, which could change between the prints.
Delta radius, tower angular position and diagonal rod length should always stay the same, once they are calibratet. Or am i wrong?

dc42

@bjoern85 said in Calibration G32 does not work:

Thank you. I will try more calibration points or factors next time.
My idea was, to calibrate not to many factors every time. Just the ones, which could change between the prints.
Delta radius, tower angular position and diagonal rod length should always stay the same, once they are calibratet. Or am i wrong?

That is correct. So 3-factor calibration before each print should be sufficient. But you might still want to use more than 3 points.

bjoern85

After a while i found a bit of time to work on my delta again.
Thought about setting the duet up completely from zero.
Is it possible that i have to put a "S2" after the G32 to get an effect?
I tried now to print some small surfaces, just where to probe touches the glass.
Then i adjusted the H values in bed.g. Now it looks a bit better, everytime i do this.
The deviation is still a bit high, i think:
Calibrated 3 factors using 7 points, deviation before 0.249 after 0.131
Is it possible to do a double touch with the sensor?
Thank you for your time

dc42

Multi-touch is controlled by the A and S parameters in the M558 command, see https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode?revisionid=HEAD#Section_M558_Set_Z_probe_type.

A reminder: H corrections to the G30 probe points in bed.g should only be made if you have established that your Z probe has a different trigger height at different probe points (typically caused by effector tilt that varies with XY position).