wifi 2 Board skipping steps

[juls]

@jay_s_uk

Hi yes RepRapFirmware for Duet Wifi/Ethernet version 3.4.6 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later

config.g

; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3.3)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.4.1 on Tue Mar 12 2024 18:27:32 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time)

; General preferences
G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M550 P"*****" ; set printer name

; Network
M552 S1 ; enable network
M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

; Drives
M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards (y axis)
M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards (extruder)
M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards (z axis)
M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards (y axis)
M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards (x axis)

M584 X1 Y3:4 Z2 E0 ; set drive mapping
M350 X16 Y16:16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X59.26 Y118.52:118.52 Z2015.75 E820.5 ; set steps per mm
M566 X600.00 Y600.00:600.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X7200.00 Y7200.00:7200.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X5000.00 Y5000.00:5000.00 Z100.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1400 Y1400:1400 Z1400 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S20 ; Set idle timeout

M591 D0 L26 P3 C"e1_stop" S1 ; filament monitor connected to E1_stop

M591 D0 ; display filament sensor parameters for extruder drive 0

; Axis Limits
M208 X-5 Y-15 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
M208 X601 Y601 Z602 S0 ; set axis maxima

; Endstops
M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

; Z-Probe
M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
;*** Remove this line after delta calibration has been done and new delta parameters have been saved
G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.4 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 X15:565 Y15:565 S68.75 ; define mesh grid

; Heaters
M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
M307 H0 R0.099 K0.262:0.000 D11.40 E1.35 S1.00 B0 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
M307 H1 R1.506 K0.331:0.000 D5.33 E1.35 S1.00 B0 V24.1; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
M570 H0 P60 T15

; Fans
M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
M106 P1 S0 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

; Tools

M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0 F0 H1 ; define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R100 S190 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Custom settings are not defined

; Miscellaneous
M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
M501

[droftarts]

@juls said in wifi 2 Board skipping steps:

For all of these lines in your config.g, remove the second Y value:

M350 X16 Y16:16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X59.26 Y118.52:118.52 Z2015.75 E820.5 ; set steps per mm
M566 X600.00 Y600.00:600.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X7200.00 Y7200.00:7200.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X5000.00 Y5000.00:5000.00 Z100.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1400 Y1400:1400 Z1400 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

ie should look like this:

M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X59.26 Y118.52 Z2015.75 E820.5 ; set steps per mm
M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X7200.00 Y7200.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X5000.00 Y5000.00 Z100.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1400 Y1400 Z1400 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

I'd say the jerk setting (M566) is fine, but your maximum speed (M203) and acceleration (M201) are quite high, particularly if the hot end/extruder are heavy. That may lead to skipping, particularly if there is a bit more resistance to movement on the axes than there was initially (worn linear bearings, dirty rails, grease solidifying in bearings over time etc.)

I think it very unlikely that "a weakness occurred" with the stepper drivers unless you've replaced the power supply for a lower voltage one. It's possible they have been overheating in the past, but the drivers will cut out before damage is done. Running at 1.4A, cooling shouldn't really be necessary unless the board is in a particularly confined space. Sending M122 while printing will show the board temperature.

Note that slicers have a bad habit of overriding configuration settings. Check that the Gcode files you are uploading are not trying to go even faster than the configuration limits in config.g. If you upload, or post the first couple of hundred lines of, a Gcode file that exhibits the problem, we can check if that's causing the issue.

For the WiFi issue, yes, the internal WiFi aerial isn't great if you put it in a metal box! We have boards that have external aerials, and generally connectivity is more robust with them.

Ian

[juls]

@droftarts

Hi Ian,

the 2nd Y value is inserted because there are 2 steppers on the Y axis controlled by 2 separate stepper drivers as previously explained. Unless you are telling me that it's only necessary to specify the one setting as it will be automatically applied across both channels? Any way the current config g has not caused any issues and everything has worked as expected.

For your information I have already changed every single bearing in the Y axis arrangement and checked every moving part of it - it is smooth as silk and 100% clean there are no 'dirty rails, worn bearings, grease solidifying'.

The board is not in a confined space, it's in a very large metal box but with the door open and external fans circulating air across it. There is no obvious sign of overheating.

We have not replaced the power supply.

I can reduce the maximum speed and acceleration but it was working perfectly up until a couple of weeks ago.

This is 1st 200 lines of most recent gcode file below, the file printed perfectly apart from one dramatic layer shift (around 0.5mm+) right in the middle of it half way up.

Speed settings were in mm/s:
Infill 50
outer wall 45
inner wall 5
Top/bottom speed 45
Initial layer 35
print jerk 15
travel jerk 20

We have already reduced those speeds down from the files that were faster but working 100% with no issues and despite this we are still getting issues that are ruining our prints.

We are at a loss what to do here - the only remaining option is a new board. We are happy to return you the board and you can test it as you wish - we are happy to pay the difference to get the version with the antenna but we need to do something as this is commercial machine. Ok I might expect this to happen on some random board I get from the net but I thought that purchasing a relatively more expensive Duet3D option would at least give us more than a few months of use.

Basically the support verdict is you 'think it's very unlikely' that your board has failed.. but in the absence of any other options we are going to have to purchase another board at our own cost?

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[T3P3Tony]

@juls I am coming to this a bit late but have you tried swapping the Y axis drivers for X and Z , that should help determine if its a stepper driver issue.

To do that swap the connectors from Y1 to Z and Y2 to X, then update the configuration (M584 command and M569 commands to match).

The reason we find it unlikely to be the stepper drivers failing is the way that they typically fail is not with a "reduced power" mode but more definitively (i.e. they wont work at all). Skipping steps could also be driver thermal shutdown, so there could be some other issue or change in your electronics enclosure that is making the board a lot hotter than it was before, leading to thermal shutdown.

[droftarts]

@juls said in wifi 2 Board skipping steps:

Your gcode is changing the M566 setting, which is 'jerk' or 'maximum instantaneous speed changes'. This is how fast it will change between one speed and another instantaneously. eg:

;LAYER_COUNT:197
;LAYER:0
M107
M566 X1200 Y1200
G0 F2800 X193.51 Y240.788 Z0.35
M566 X900 Y900
;TYPE:SKIRT

M566 X1200 Y1200 is double the jerk setting in config.g of M566 X600 Y600. Your motors may not have enough torque to do this move in certain situation, eg a change of direction.

Some slicers use 'adaptive jerk', and change M566 during the print. What slicer are you using? Possibly Orcaslicer? If you updated the slicer in the last couple of weeks, this may have been turned on. Is the gcode you posted newly created, or did this exact code print correctly a couple of weeks ago?

@juls said in wifi 2 Board skipping steps:

the 2nd Y value is inserted because there are 2 steppers on the Y axis controlled by 2 separate stepper drivers as previously explained. Unless you are telling me that it's only necessary to specify the one setting as it will be automatically applied across both channels?

Yes. In the past this has been known to cause issues. RepRapFirmware does not support individual motor settings where an axis has multiple motors connected to different stepper drivers. The first parameter specified will be used for all motors on the axis. You should use identical motors on any axis that has more than one motor to avoid unexpected behaviour. Each extruder axis is counted as a separate axis, so you only specify extra values if you have multiple extruders.

Ian

[juls]

@T3P3Tony

Hi Tony, appreciate your trying to help resolve

I have already tried swapping the axis drivers.. strangely the issue did not move but remained. That would of course make you think the axis is the issue but the axis and motors have been completely refurbed checked and all bearings and motors renewed. The layer shift is still occurring, it has reduced, mainly with slowing everything down but I'm still getting around 1-5 skips occurring per print. If there was any axis or motor issue (which I'm not convinced there was) then it's gone now anyway.

But none of this gets away from the fact the the identical prints were working perfectly with zero skips and much faster speeds and identical setup.. we are talking 20 or more of the same print, all completely successful! It just feels like the whole system has lost power somehow.

I've not made any change in the electronics enclosure but I have included a picture here so you can see it's not cramped in any way. I've already been running temp checks with an infra red thermometer and nothing on the board seems to be reading over 30 degrees which is consistent with M122 which is giving a max MCU temp of 27.8

The only other thing I can think of is that between the successful prints mentioned above and the current skipping steps scenario we completed a number of very large ABS prints, high temperatures, extruder 250 bed 80 across multiple days. The prints completed successfully, ie without any layer shifting issues however I'm wondering if the stress on the board has caused a power failure somewhere. It's odd that the problem has occurred since those prints.

[juls]

@droftarts

Hi Ian,

so I've taken out the second parameter in config.g as suggested, thanks for explaining.

the slicer is CURA (which is actually written in the code)

the M566 changes you have noted are turned on/off via 'Jerk control'

However I've checked back through the gcodes and the layer skipping ones to start with all had jerk control turned off, ie no M566 changes in the gcode.

I've actually enabled that to try to cure the issue, it's certainly not made it worse, if anything it has improved it but we need prints without any layer skips at all obviously..

A recent gcode file that I ran I had the M566 turned down to X780 Y780 and it still had layer skips.

I'm currently running a file with the config change and M203 set at 5000, M201 set at 3000

However none of this still gets away from the fact that all was working perfectly at the faster settings and config so I feel issue lies elsewhere.

[T3P3Tony]

@juls thanks for the update.

There is no reason the higher ABS temperatures would have stressed the control board significantly unless the electronics enclosure is heated by the bed in some way so the internal temperature of the enclosure was higher.

What does occur to me is its worth confirming the power supply is not the issue, depending on how your bed and extruder are powered (I assume bed is AC given the printer size, extruder is DC)

Is the powersupply still providing the correct voltage and do you see any drop in power supply voltage when heating the extruder from cold?

Another point you mentioned:

@juls said in wifi 2 Board skipping steps:

Since then tried reducing motor current - 85% of rated value as suggested so currently 1.4A per channel on this axis, similar or lower on the other channels.

Have you subsequently restored the motor current to what is was when it was working perfectly? If not please do that.

[droftarts]

@juls Please can you send M122 in the DWC console, and post the response. There's some diagnostics that may help.

If you have moved the stepper motors to different drivers and experienced the same issue on the same axis, I'd have to say this is:

• either a settings issue (I'd revert to not using 'Jerk control' in Cura), ie trying to run the motors faster than they were previously when it was working fine,
• or a power issue, ie the motors are trying to pull more or the same voltage (stepper drivers always supply the same current, but voltage changes as required to move the motor) but are not getting the required voltage supply. That makes be think the PSU or power wiring may be an issue. Please check all wiring is firmly seated (ie the power screw terminals on the Duet), and the PSU is supplying the correct voltage under load. The M122 report may show such voltage drops.

Edit: sorry, I see @T3P3Tony has replied with much the same thing.

Ian

[juls]

@T3P3Tony

the electronics enclosure isn't heated by the bed in any way. The bed is above the enclosure so no risk of that.

I've not noticed any issue with power supply or heating from cold, as you can see the bed is indeed powered via a relay so not directly heated by the board supply. All of the stepping issues seem to appear later in the printing anyway not at the start.

M122 reads supply voltage min 23.8 current 24 max 24.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes

Yes already thought of that with regards to the motor current. I've actually been increasing it gradually again as it does of course reduce issues to have more current available. Current on the Y axis is 1600 at the moment - but the motors are only sitting around 50 degrees C during printing so still very comfortable.

[juls]

@droftarts @T3P3Tony

as requested - wiring all looks good and has been checked, it was all replaced and rebuilt only a few months ago. I've just checked the voltage manually during the print and its reading just over 24v

Only slightly interesting thing is that 1 stepper motor on the Y axis is consistently reading about 2 degrees hotter than the other which is a bit odd since they are identical brand new motors and both sides of the axis are loaded identically. Either way max temp of the stepper is still only around 49.5 degrees.

m122
=== Diagnostics ===
RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.6 (2023-07-21 14:08:28) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
Board ID: 0JD0M-9P6B2-NJ4S4-6JKF2-3SD6P-KU1QL
Used output buffers: 1 of 26 (25 max)
=== RTOS ===
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Dynamic ram: 75612 of which 12 recycled
Never used RAM 9272, free system stack 104 words
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=== Storage ===
Free file entries: 9
SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
SD card longest read time 1.3ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
=== Move ===
DMs created 83, segments created 18, maxWait 3211ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 99844, completed 99814, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 2, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state 3
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== Heat ===
Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.3
Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.8
=== GCodes ===
Segments left: 1
Movement lock held by null
HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
File is doing "G0 X351.317 Y341.779" in state(s) 0
USB is idle in state(s) 0
Aux is idle in state(s) 0
Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
Queue is idle in state(s) 0
LCD is idle in state(s) 0
Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
Code queue is empty
=== Filament sensors ===
Extruder 0: pos 73.83, errs: frame 0 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 0 ovdue 0
=== Network ===
Slowest loop: 100.48ms; fastest: 0.07ms
Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0)
HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
= WiFi =
Interface state: active
Module is connected to access point
Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 4
WiFi firmware version 1.27
WiFi MAC address a4:e5:7c:03:db:6c
WiFi Vcc 3.44, reset reason Power up
WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 25840
WiFi IP address 192.168.0.21
WiFi signal strength -45dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
Clock register 00002002
Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

[juls]

@droftarts @T3P3Tony @jay_s_uk

So after following the previous advices given there were 2 successful prints, then the 3rd print and most recent print failed again - a big layer shift ruining the print about 3/4 the way up.

I've checked M122 following the print and there were no undervoltage issues reported and also no temperature issues.

[droftarts]

@juls Was it the same Gcode file three times, or three different Gcodes files? Newly sliced or old files that have printed successfully or failed before? Can you post the Gcode file that failed?

Ian

[juls]

@droftarts

So just to update you that all subsequent prints (about 3 since last report) have all continued to have stepping issues. All the prints have been a variation of the same file and sliced with the same settings, slowed down considerably from the original 20 or so prints that were all successful and with the tweaks that have been suggested above implemented. No jerk control, config corrected, overall speeds and acceleration reduced dramatically.

We can't post the full gcode for legal reasons but the lines as compared with the previous code show you that the M566 command has gone:

;FLAVOR:RepRap
;TIME:17378
;Filament used: 61.718m
;Layer height: 0.3
;MINX:192.102
;MINY:237.71
;MINZ:0.35
;MAXX:397.898
;MAXY:347.29
;MAXZ:59.15
;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 4.13.2
T0
M190 S60
M104 S200
M109 S200
M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
G28 ;Home
G29 S1;
G1 Z15.0 F6000 ;Move the platform down 15mm
;Prime the extruder
G29 S1 ;load bed compensation mesh
G92 E0
G1 E75 F200

G92 E0
M83 ;relative extrusion mode
G1 F2400 E-2.5
;LAYER_COUNT:197
;LAYER:0
M107
G0 F2800 X193.512 Y239.036 Z0.35
;TYPE:SKIRT
G1 F2400 E2.5
G1 F2100 X193.955 Y238.762 E0.06064
G1 X194.435 Y238.558 E0.06071
G1 X194.94 Y238.429 E0.06067
G1 X195.445 Y238.38 E0.05906
G1 X196.398 Y238.359 E0.11097
G1 X198.693 Y238.353 E0.26716
G1 X205.669 Y238.356 E0.81208
G1 X389.908 Y238.356 E21.44735
G1 X391.319 Y238.352 E0.16426
G1 X393.87 Y238.36 E0.29696
G1 X394.528 Y238.371 E0.07661
G1 X395.047 Y238.42 E0.06069
G1 X395.552 Y238.547 E0.06062
G1 X396.032 Y238.751 E0.06071
G1 X396.475 Y239.025 E0.06064
G1 X396.871 Y239.363 E0.06061
G1 X397.211 Y239.758 E0.06067
G1 X397.487 Y240.201 E0.06076
G1 X397.691 Y240.68 E0.06061
G1 X397.82 Y241.185 E0.06067
G1 X397.87 Y241.698 E0.06
G1 X397.891 Y242.692 E0.11574
G1 X397.897 Y244.849 E0.2511
G1 X397.894 Y251.648 E0.79147
G1 X397.894 Y338.804 E10.14587
G1 X397.898 Y340.002 E0.13946
G1 X397.89 Y342.557 E0.29743
G1 X397.878 Y343.278 E0.08394
G1 X397.829 Y343.796 E0.06057
G1 X397.702 Y344.302 E0.06073
G1 X397.499 Y344.782 E0.06067
G1 X397.225 Y345.225 E0.06064
G1 X396.886 Y345.621 E0.06068
G1 X396.491 Y345.961 E0.06067
G1 X396.048 Y346.237 E0.06076
G1 X395.569 Y346.441 E0.06061
G1 X395.064 Y346.57 E0.06067
G1 X394.555 Y346.62 E0.05954
G1 X393.6 Y346.641 E0.1112
G1 X391.365 Y346.647 E0.26018
G1 X384.498 Y346.644 E0.79939
G1 X374.178 Y346.644 E1.20136
G1 X372.67 Y346.622 E0.17557
G1 X371.37 Y346.586 E0.15139
G1 X368.637 Y346.586 E0.31815
G1 X367.656 Y346.616 E0.11425
G1 X365.793 Y346.644 E0.2169
G1 X200.06 Y346.644 E19.29306
G1 X198.822 Y346.648 E0.14412
G1 X196.212 Y346.64 E0.30383
G1 X195.474 Y346.628 E0.08592
G1 X194.955 Y346.579 E0.06069
G1 X194.449 Y346.452 E0.06073
G1 X193.969 Y346.249 E0.06067
G1 X193.526 Y345.975 E0.06064
G1 X193.13 Y345.637 E0.06061
G1 X192.79 Y345.242 E0.06067
G1 X192.514 Y344.8 E0.06066
G1 X192.309 Y344.32 E0.06076
G1 X192.18 Y343.815 E0.06067
G1 X192.13 Y343.302 E0.06
G1 X192.109 Y342.315 E0.11492
G1 X192.103 Y340.151 E0.25191
G1 X192.106 Y333.352 E0.79147
G1 X192.106 Y246.196 E10.14587
G1 X192.102 Y244.998 E0.13946
G1 X192.111 Y242.391 E0.30348
G1 X192.123 Y241.718 E0.07836
G1 X192.172 Y241.2 E0.06057
G1 X192.3 Y240.694 E0.06076
G1 X192.503 Y240.215 E0.06056
G1 X192.778 Y239.772 E0.0607
G1 X193.117 Y239.376 E0.06068
G1 X193.512 Y239.036 E0.06067
G1 F2400 E-2.5

The printer has not been turned off and I've been keeping an eye on diagnostics - this is the latest and as you can see still no particular issues reported in 72 hours

m122
=== Diagnostics ===
RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.6 (2023-07-21 14:08:28) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
Board ID: 0JD0M-9P6B2-NJ4S4-6JKF2-3SD6P-KU1QL
Used output buffers: 1 of 26 (25 max)
=== RTOS ===
Static ram: 23896
Dynamic ram: 75684 of which 12 recycled
Never used RAM 9104, free system stack 92 words
Tasks: NETWORK(notifyWait,23.4%,211) HEAT(notifyWait,0.5%,308) Move(notifyWait,15.2%,294) MAIN(running,60.8%,456) IDLE(ready,0.1%,30), total 100.0%
Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
=== Platform ===
Last reset 71:35:32 ago, cause: software
Last software reset time unknown, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 9128, slot 0
Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
Error status: 0x00
Step timer max interval 0
MCU temperature: min 24.4, current 24.9, max 29.1
Supply voltage: min 23.7, current 24.1, max 24.6, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/186/186, gc cycles 0
Events: 1 queued, 1 completed
Driver 0: standstill, SG min 0
Driver 1: standstill, SG min 0
Driver 2: standstill, SG min 0
Driver 3: standstill, SG min 0
Driver 4: standstill, SG min 0
Driver 5: 
Driver 6: 
Driver 7: 
Driver 8: 
Driver 9: 
Driver 10: 
Driver 11: 
Date/time: 2024-07-01 09:30:36
Cache data hit count 4294967295
Slowest loop: 118.65ms; fastest: 0.15ms
I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
=== Storage ===
Free file entries: 10
SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
SD card longest read time 7.3ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
=== Move ===
DMs created 83, segments created 22, maxWait 25669423ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 353169, completed 353169, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== Heat ===
Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.3
Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.7
=== GCodes ===
Segments left: 0
Movement lock held by null
HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
File is idle in state(s) 0
USB is idle in state(s) 0
Aux is idle in state(s) 0
Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
Queue is idle in state(s) 0
LCD is idle in state(s) 0
Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
Code queue is empty
=== Filament sensors ===
Extruder 0: pos 331.17, errs: frame 7 parity 0 ovrun 0 pol 4 ovdue 0
=== Network ===
Slowest loop: 109.93ms; fastest: 0.07ms
Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0)
HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
= WiFi =
Interface state: active
Module is connected to access point 
Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 18
WiFi firmware version 1.27
WiFi MAC address a4:e5:7c:03:db:6c
WiFi Vcc 3.44, reset reason Power up
WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 25840
WiFi IP address 192.168.0.21
WiFi signal strength -48dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
Clock register 00002002
Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

[droftarts]

@juls Thanks for the information. I can't see anything in the Gcode that would cause a skip, and the M122 report doesn't show any skips (assuming this M122 was from after a print that skipped - some data in M122 resets after each M122 command). There are some errors in the Filament sensors section that I'm just checking with @dc42.

I think this is a regular cartesian machine, rather than CoreXY? Is it always the Y axis that skips, any skips on X? When you replaced the motors, did you replace the wiring to the motors? Please check all wiring and crimps from board to motor. I still find it difficult to rationalise that there is a problem with the drivers on the board, as you say you swapped which driver controlled which axis.

Ian

[juls]

@droftarts

Hi Ian, it's a regular cartesian machine not core XY. Generally yes the skips appear to have been only on the Y, however it's the only axis with independent channels for the 2 motors - possibly that's the aspect the board is struggling with for some reason. I have checked the wiring to the motors on the axis and yes in fact ALL the wiring in the entire printer was replaced as part of the refurbishment with brand new cables. But I have rechecked just recently the specific wiring on the Y, everything is perfect.

I would agree with what you are saying however I feel having ruled out every other possibility the only option left to try is replacing the board. If the issue goes away then we know that there was a problem somewhere on the board. If changing the board doesn't solve the issue I'm willing to return you the replacement board.

[Phaedrux]

@juls said in wifi 2 Board skipping steps:

RepRapFirmware for Duet Wifi/Ethernet version 3.4.6

Have you tried updating firmware to 3.5.2 yet?

If the issues stays with the Y axis itself regardless of drivers than it makes me think it's a mechanical binding issue. How heavy is the Y axis?