RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available

skrotz

@dc42 Sorry to always be the bearer of bad news but no real difference with this firmware from what I can tell, still hearing clunking noises and still extrusion issues and jagginess on the print with PA enabled and EI3 input shaping enabled. I will try and do a test with input shaping disabled soon.

UPDATE: started a print with input shaping disabled, and was getting the clunking, maybe even worse than with input shaping on. Disabled PA and things quieted back to normal. I then turned on input shaping back on (with PA disabled) and it still sounds normal, no clunking. so PA in general seems to be the cause of the clunking. I'll see if I'm still having extrusion blobs/zits with PA disabled but input shaping on.

UPDATE 2: still seeing the same extrusion blobs with PA off and input shaping (ei3) enabled.

stats below are from the print with both PA and input shaping enabled:
=== Move ===
DMs created 83, segments created 35, maxWait 39679ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 11545, completed moves 11545, hiccups 2744, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping (2021-08-01 00:01:15) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5

JenPet

@dc42 I also tested the new version and couldn't see any improvement.
The issue only happens when PA is on. As soon as PA is off, the extrusion is correct.
It's a problem with PA even without input shaping.

=== Move ===
DMs created 83, segments created 42, maxWait 11789ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 3006, completed moves 3006, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

dc42

@jenpet and @skrotz, thanks for your feedback. I am running a test print on a bench setup and getting a slight clunking of the extruder on some moves only when I increase PA to 0.3 or higher. I am trying to track down the cause.

CadetC

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

I have now fixed that and updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0.

In my case, after installing the latest 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping (2021-08-01) - after starting the print DWC immediately reports the completed print - although the table is just warming up and printing has not even started yet. I cannot stop printing because only the - "print again" button is active - I have to click on emergency stop.
Below is the status screen -after printing has started

Adrian52

@dc42 my experience is similar - I use pa of 0.8, and this gives clunking and poor finish, with and without input shaping, and around 6000 hiccups per 18000 moves for both. Reducing pa to 0.2, still without shaping, gave a much better result, but still 446 hiccups. Clunking still noticeable, particularly on the first half layer of solid infill - the second half of the layer where the line length is decreasing is much smoother

MikeS

@adrian52 I'm printing 2 cubes, one with stable and one with the beta. I'm mid second print and seems that same PA value (0.04) gives different results with the beta... i'll try to post detailed photos of the outcome once it's finished.

I hear less noise from the extruder than latest beta, still there is some there. More noticeable at higher printing speed.

3.3 Stable:

3.4 Beta:

Unluckily i have to dry the filament buut it's the only glossy filament that i have atm and is easier to shot to seeartifacts. As you can see there is something wrong on the edges of beta print. Seems that more PA is needed than 3.3.

Printed with the same g-code with the same settings.

M122 B1 report:

M122 B1
=== Diagnostics ===
RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping (2021-08-01 00:01:15) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
Board ID: 0JD0M-9P61A-J8PS8-6JTD2-3SJ6R-9USUU
Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (24 max)
=== RTOS ===
Static ram: 23932
Dynamic ram: 76624 of which 12 recycled
Never used RAM 7456, free system stack 106 words
Tasks: NETWORK(ready,14.8%,217) HEAT(delaying,0.0%,326) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,285) DUEX(notifyWait,0.0%,24) MAIN(running,85.2%,441) IDLE(ready,0.0%,29), total 100.0%
Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK) HTTP(MAIN)
=== Platform ===
Last reset 00:47:14 ago, cause: software
Last software reset at 2021-07-30 17:52, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 11316, slot 2
Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
Error status: 0x0c
Aux0 errors 0,0,0
Step timer max interval 0
MCU temperature: min 41.5, current 43.0, max 43.5
Supply voltage: min 23.7, current 23.9, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/890/890, gc cycles 0
Driver 0: position 28800, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 1: position -27200, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 2: position 120000, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 5: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 6: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 7: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 8: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 9: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
Driver 10: position 0
Driver 11: position 0
Date/time: 2021-08-01 13:01:42
Cache data hit count 4294967295
Slowest loop: 6.30ms; fastest: 0.17ms
I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
=== Storage ===
Free file entries: 10
SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
SD card longest read time 0.6ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
=== Move ===
DMs created 83, segments created 50, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 59750, completed moves 59750, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== Heat ===
Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
=== GCodes ===
Segments left: 0
Movement lock held by null
HTTP is ready with "M122 B1" in state(s) 0
Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
File is idle in state(s) 0
USB is idle in state(s) 0
Aux is idle in state(s) 0
Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
Queue is idle in state(s) 0
LCD is idle in state(s) 0
Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
Code queue is empty
=== DueX ===
Read count 0, 0.00 reads/min
=== Network ===
Slowest loop: 202.82ms; fastest: 0.10ms
Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
- WiFi -
Network state is active
WiFi module is connected to access point 
Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
WiFi firmware version 1.24
WiFi MAC address 48:3f:da:79:65:eb
WiFi Vcc 3.34, reset reason Power up
WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 27144
WiFi IP address 192.168.1.230
WiFi signal strength -21dBm, mode none, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
Clock register 00002002
Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

dc42

I've identified and fixed some issues affecting extrusion with pressure advannce, and updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0 again.

skrotz

@dc42 seems like same results on this firmware for me. Clunking sounds, and extrusion issues/jagginess on a calibration cube print with PA and input shaping (ei2). my PA is at 0.12.

sorry in previous posts I've been putting my input shaping as ei3, I meant ei2. It's been ei2 not ei3.

=== Move ===
DMs created 83, segments created 35, maxWait 23643ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 11545, completed moves 11545, hiccups 3024, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping (2021-08-01 21:19:05) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5

seems like the number of hiccups actually went up with this firmware.

CadetC

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

I've identified and fixed some issues affecting extrusion with pressure advannce, and updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0 again.

Same problem as with previous binaries - after starting a print, the status immediately shows that the print is 100% complete - when I click emergency stop, DWC hangs up and I have to physically cut power to reset the printer

dc42

@cadetc said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

I've identified and fixed some issues affecting extrusion with pressure advannce, and updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0 again.

Same problem as with previous binaries - after starting a print, the status immediately shows that the print is 100% complete - when I click emergency stop, DWC hangs up and I have to physically cut power to reset the printer

Did you check for error messages in the console?

dc42

@skrotz said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@dc42 seems like same results on this firmware for me. Clunking sounds, and extrusion issues/jagginess on a calibration cube print with PA and input shaping (ei2). my PA is at 0.12.

Please can you try a print with PA enabled but input shaping disabled, and let me know if it behaves any differently from RRF 3.3.

CadetC

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@cadetc said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

I've identified and fixed some issues affecting extrusion with pressure advannce, and updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0 again.

Same problem as with previous binaries - after starting a print, the status immediately shows that the print is 100% complete - when I click emergency stop, DWC hangs up and I have to physically cut power to reset the printer

Did you check for error messages in the console?

no error codes

CadetC

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@cadetc said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

I've identified and fixed some issues affecting extrusion with pressure advannce, and updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0 again.

Same problem as with previous binaries - after starting a print, the status immediately shows that the print is 100% complete - when I click emergency stop, DWC hangs up and I have to physically cut power to reset the printer

Did you check for error messages in the console?

no error codes -All in all, the print sequence is OK, first the table heats up, then noozle and the print starts - even though the status from the very beginning shows the print as 100% complete - I think there is a bug with the layer count so DWC indicates the print as 100% complete

CadetC

When I made a downgrade to an earlier beta then it is OK - the problem appeared in the beta version released today

skrotz

@dc42 Yes with input shaping disabled but PA enabled I am getting the clunking noises, different from RRF 3.3.

dc42

@cadetc said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@cadetc said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

I've identified and fixed some issues affecting extrusion with pressure advannce, and updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0 again.

Same problem as with previous binaries - after starting a print, the status immediately shows that the print is 100% complete - when I click emergency stop, DWC hangs up and I have to physically cut power to reset the printer

Did you check for error messages in the console?

no error codes -All in all, the print sequence is OK, first the table heats up, then noozle and the print starts - even though the status from the very beginning shows the print as 100% complete - I think there is a bug with the layer count so DWC indicates the print as 100% complete

Please provide the print file and your config.g file.

chrishamm

@cadetc RRF 3.4-b2pre isn't compatible with the DSF version from the unstable package feed. We'll update the package feed as soon as the remaining issues with IS/PA are confirmed to be fixed.

CadetC

@dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

Please provide the print file and your config.g file.

Below my config.g and print file

tension, cover, bltouch_32m.g
config (5).g

; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Sat Apr 17 2021 20:39:32 GMT+0200 (czas środkowoeuropejski letni)

; General preferences
G90                                                  ; send absolute coordinates...
M83                                                  ; ...but relative extruder moves
M550 P"Duet 3"                                       ; set printer name
M669 K1                                              ; select CoreXY mode
G4 S5                                                ;wait for expansion boards to start
; Drives
M569 P0.5 S0                                         ; x axis physical drive 0.5 goes forward
M569 P0.4 S0                                         ; y axis physical drive 0.4 goes forward
M569 P0.2 S1                                         ; Fron right bed physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
M569 P121.0 S1                                       ;extruder  physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
M569 P0.0 S1                                         ; Front left bed physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
M569 P0.1 S1                                         ; Rear bed physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
M584 X0.5 Y0.4 Z0.0:0.1:0.2 E121.0                       ; set drive mapping
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                              ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z800.00 E409.00                  ; set steps per mm
M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z30.00 E1200.00               ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z1800.00 E3000.00           ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z200.00 E2000.00              ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X2000 Y2000 Z1200 E800 I30                       ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30                                              ; Set idle timeout
M671 X-27.4:147.5:322.4 Y-4.5:324.5:-4.5 S20


; Axis Limits
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                     ; set axis minima
M208 X290 Y280 Z290 S0                               ; set axis maxima


M955 P121.0 I41

; Endstops
M574 X2 S1 P"121.io1.in"                             ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin 121.io1.in
M574 Y1 S1 P"io1.in"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io1.in
M574 Z1 S2                                           ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

; Z-Probe
M950 S0 C"121.io0.out"                               ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
M558 P9 C"^121.io0.in" H15 F240 T9000                ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
G31 P500 X-1  Y-32 Z2.50                             ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 X10:290 Y3:290 S30                              ; define mesh grid

; Heaters
M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138         ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                   ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                     ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M140 H0                                              ; map heated bed to heater 0
M143 H0 S130                                         ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 130C
M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138     ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1                               ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                     ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
M143 H1 S300                                         ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C

; Fans
M950 F0 C"out7" Q25000                                 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
M106 P0 S0 H-1                                       ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
M950 F1 C"121.out2" Q500                             ; create fan 1 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                    ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                     ; define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                      ; set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0                                         ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C


T0					                                 ; select first hot end
; Miscellaneous
M572 D0 S0.022                                       ;enable pressure advance value of 0.022
M575 P1 S1 B57600                                    ; enable support for PanelDue
M501                                                 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
M911 S22 R23.5 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

I have no problems with the July 28 beta bin
Duet3Firmware_MB6HC-28-07.bin

Print status problem started with the August 1 beta bin
Duet3Firmware_MB6HC-1-08.bin

But as chrishamm said

RRF 3.4-b2pre isn't compatible with the DSF version from the unstable package feed. We'll update the package feed as soon as the remaining issues with IS/PA are confirmed to be fixed.

Problem lays with incompatibilie DSF - only surprised me why works with ver. 28-07 but not with ver. 1-08

dc42

@cadetc thanks.

JenPet

@dc42 I have also tested new version but can't see any improvement