Mixed voltage for 24V fans on toolboard.

[dintid]

@dc42 if the pcb is multilayered id be afraid to cut too deeply.
Maybe a physical jumper solution could be implemented in future versions.
Main concern for me is the BLTouch not working for me. Hopefully I’ll have time to test it on main board tomorrow.

[A Former User]

@dintid said in Mixed voltage for 24V fans on toolboard.:

if the pcb is multilayered id be afraid to cut too deeply.

it is, but not a problem to cut just the bottom layer - in adittion there is plenty of space to cut the trace where there aren't any mid layer signals.

if you were to try it, which output would you use with 24v? out1, out 2 or both?

[dintid]

@bearer I’m not going to cut anything, as it would introduce a new variable on my board, but if I were, I’d cut both.

[baird1fa]

@dc42 hypothetically if you are not using the 12v for anything, what damage would be caused by feeding Vin to the 12v through the fly back diode?

[dc42]

@baird1fa said in Mixed voltage for 24V fans on toolboard.:

@dc42 hypothetically if you are not using the 12v for anything, what damage would be caused by feeding Vin to the 12v through the fly back diode?

That's a good point! The 5V regulator is fed from +12V, however there is a protection diode between the external 12V output and the internal one. So it should be safe to connect the external 12V output to VIN. There is a 1uF capacitor C26 connected to the external 12V rail which we have specified as 16V, however the capacitor we actually use is rated at 50V. I've made a note to increase it to 50V officially.

[baird1fa]

@dc42 I’m not sure I follow all of that. So if 24V was applied to Vin and Vin was used to power a fan as the + terminal and the - was connected to the out1 PWM terminal. You would feed 24V into the 12V supply through the fly back diode. But this would only affect out1 and out2 and not the 5V supply because there is protection internally to the 5V supply?

So in conclusion it would only harm the 12V output terminals if anything at all?

[dc42]

@baird1fa said in Mixed voltage for 24V fans on toolboard.:

@dc42 I’m not sure I follow all of that. So if 24V was applied to Vin and Vin was used to power a fan as the + terminal and the - was connected to the out1 PWM terminal. You would feed 24V into the 12V supply through the fly back diode. But this would only affect out1 and out2 and not the 5V supply because there is protection internally to the 5V supply?

So in conclusion it would only harm the 12V output terminals if anything at all?

Correct. You could even connect +12V at the OUT1 or OUT2 connector to VIN. Note, I haven't tested this yet, I'll try to do this tomorrow.

[becky9]

@dc42 Did you test this David? Is it safe to do? x

[olliss]

@dc42 Have you ever tested this? it would be nice to know if this works without problems or is it just better to disconnect the 12v trace.

[dc42]

@olliss it's safe to do. The next revision of the tool board will have a jumper to do exactly this.