Duet3D PCB delta printer effector sneak preview

So with the kit I won't use my genuine E3D heatsink but the custom one in the kit?

Correct

Cata

It's possible to use a v6 lite?

Dougal1957

No but again all the other parts from the lite are the same as the full so you just need to custom Heatsink parts. plus a heatbreak, Nozzle and heater parts are common.

Doug

dc42

The first 4 production effectors passed testing this morning, so I've just given the go ahead for manufacture of the rest of this batch to proceed.

Dougal1957

David that is excellent news.

So I guess we are talking about 2-3 weeks for them to be available then?

Doug

Rommie

Ahhhhh I need one lol

loic

i really love the design and the light weight
now it will be great to have piezo sensor available for this effector with nimble it could be a beast combo

loic

@dc42:

It's a secret until we start shipping them.

does it will be compatible with smoothieware software?
i hope uk shipping cost will not killing us..(it so expansive..)

dc42

@loic:

does it will be compatible with smoothieware software?
i hope uk shipping cost will not killing us..(it so expansive..)

It should work with other electronics and firmware if you accept the default sensitivity. Whether that will work for you depends on the level of vibration of the effector during probing.

dc42

@loic:

i really love the design and the light weight
now it will be great to have piezo sensor available for this effector with nimble it could be a beast combo

The nozzle contact sensor is built in, so no need for a piezo. At least one of our beta testers is looking at mounting a Nimble on it.

Zesty_Lykle

@dc42:

At least one of our beta testers is looking at mounting a Nimble on it.

Yes Dougal1957 has a Nimble mounted on it and indeed, it is a great combo.
His pictures of the combination are on page 6 of this thread, as is the link to the adapter he used.

Lykle

Rommie

I too will be doing the same as doug, adapter is already ordered from shapeways lol just need dc too send me an effector lol wink wink , can't wait too be fair it is a fantastic bit of kit and very good at probing from what I have seen from Doug's pictures.

loic

@dc42:

@loic:

i really love the design and the light weight
now it will be great to have piezo sensor available for this effector with nimble it could be a beast combo

The nozzle contact sensor is built in, so no need for a piezo. At least one of our beta testers is looking at mounting a Nimble on it.

thanks great
but does it will be better than a simple micro switch accuracy?
does it piezo or other way sensor?

Rommie

@loic:

@dc42:

@loic:

i really love the design and the light weight
now it will be great to have piezo sensor available for this effector with nimble it could be a beast combo

The nozzle contact sensor is built in, so no need for a piezo. At least one of our beta testers is looking at mounting a Nimble on it.

thanks great
but does it will be better than a simple micro switch accuracy?
does it piezo or other way sensor?

From what I have seen of mesh bed comp between piezo and dc effector it wins hands down, I know doug has had experience with piezo and dc effector and he can't praise it enough. Getting to 0.002 dev on his tests

loic

do you have an idea about the cost for a kit?
i will buy one for my delta xxl project +nimble

dc42

@loic:

thanks great
but does it will be better than a simple micro switch accuracy?
does it piezo or other way sensor?

Yes it will work better than a microswitch. I don't expect there to be any significant difference between the reproducibility of our effector and that of a piezo mounted in the hot end, if both are set up correctly.

dc42

@loic:

do you have an idea about the cost for a kit?
i will buy one for my delta xxl project +nimble

I think we will publish the prices tomorrow or Tuesday.

Rommie

@dc42:

@loic:

do you have an idea about the cost for a kit?
i will buy one for my delta xxl project +nimble

I think we will publish the prices tomorrow or Tuesday.

I will be buying one no matter what lol

DjDemonD

Yes we can do 0.002 probing standard deviation too. If you're talking about 0.002 delta calibration deviation, then you'll need a very precise machine as well as a very precise probe, but the two go hand in hand. So far when you get to these levels of precision no previous probing tech, really enabled us to see whether the printer needed tweaking or the probe was just too vague. Now we can see the difference.

To be fair the sensing modality between our system and T3P3/DC's is very similar technology. I am quite sure DC and Tony will have done a lot of work on making it strong, reliable and above all reasonable to manufacture. The key question is cost. Given the accuracy/operation is likely to be very similar.

I think the market is quite big enough for two nozzle contact sensors. If you are using the PCB effector then you'll be using the nozzle contact sensor which comes with it too. If you are not then our sensors are an option.

But if you still think you can compete with this type of nozzle contact tech with an IR, inductive, capacitative, BL touch, deployable probes etc, then think again.

Dougal1957

Simon I have achieved a delta calibration this morning of 0.003 with the PCB effector.