Revo 6 PID tuning just hangs
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Havent printed on my printer in a long time. I ordered a new Revo 6 (12v) from E3D. While waiting on it to get here i updated my firmware that was quite out of date. Revo shows up, removed the old V6, i get the revo installed and go to PID tune it. and it got to phase 2, settling, and it cooled to room temperature and its been there for well over an hour... what the heck is it waiting on???? I thought pid tuning was fairly quick?
Board: Duet 2 WiFi (2WiFi)
Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.3 (2022-10-05)
Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.25
Duet Web Control 3.2.2The command i entered was m303 t0 s236 c5. Did i enter it wrong? Should i have deleted the old m307 line data first?? Anyone have some insight please?
; tool heater
M308 S1 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; define E1 temperature sensor
M950 H1 C"e1heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
M307 H1 R1.350 K0.427:0.039 D6.10 E1.35 S1.00 B0 V11.6 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit, (pidm303t0s236 not t1)
M143 H1 S280Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.
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@wingtip
ok the mystery continues. I tried changing the command to M303 h1 s236 c5 and it says its starting but then cancels itself saying temperature not increasing.Then i went back to M303 T0 S236 c5 it doesnt heat up either. Now i cant get it to heat at all... the duet is putting out the 12vdc as measured by a multimeter.... ive been fighting this all day and im about to let it sit for another year or two for its bad behavior
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@wingtip I'll use M303 T0 S236 no C parameter needed...have you run thru documentation...the C parameter is used in marlin firmware...reprap firmware don't use it
https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m303-run-heater-tuning
M303 H1 S236 is tunning for heater 1
M303 T0 S236 is tunning for tool 1
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@wingtip said in Revo 6 PID tuning just hangs:
Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.3 (2022-10-05)
Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.25
Duet Web Control 3.2.2How did you update the firmware? You've got the latest firmware version, almost, but the rest hasn't been updated. That can cause some weird behaviour.
I suggest you upload this single zip file to the system tab in DWC. That should get you updated all around.
https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.4.4/Duet2and3Firmware-3.4.4.zip
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@Phaedrux i have no clue im an idiot lol... but if what you say is true then that explains why i lost the ability to see the mesh level height map in the dwc.. I will upload that file momentarily...
the reason why i had the c parameter in there is everytime i try to youtube search issues , the majority of videos are all centered around marlin but i thought the duet documents pages said same thing but obviously i was mistaken... -
@wingtip
Board: Duet 2 WiFi (2WiFi)
Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.4 (2022-10-20)
Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.27
Duet Web Control 3.4.4
still not heating up. going to see of the height map is working again real quick. EDIT: ummm did they do away with the heightmap visual in recent updates? Again until a few days ago i was on a much older version.Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.
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@wingtip
Ok, im at a loss here. Since i do have 12 volts at the heater (so it must be starting to heat up) but the duet stops the tuning within a minute or so and says the temp isnt rising, i could only assume i had a break or intermittent connection from the thermistor to the main board. I verified all the thermistor wires were showing continuity through all break out boards and cable chains and to the mainboard. Still wont heat up and im just at a loss as to why it wont just heat up...According to the revo documentation here https://e3d-online.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4409926923665-Revo-Six-RepRap-Firmware-Guide I did make a slight change to the line
M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 .
My config had C7.06e-8
I then re tried the m303 but with h1 instead of t0 and i got this... not sure if the info in the image will help diagnose anything. Im not even sure if that data is old data or from the 3 hour attempt at tuning earlier today...
Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.
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@wingtip said in Revo 6 PID tuning just hangs:
I then re tried the m303 but with h1 instead of t0 and i got this...
According to the image you posted, you sent M301 H1, not M303 H1.
If the heater isn't heating, then it could be a wiring issue. Check the voltage at the connector. Alternatively or are you sure that you've got the 12 V version? If you have the 24V version but are only supplying it with 12V, that would also fail to heat up.
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@wingtip good catch on the 301 vs the 303.. fat finger mistake i guess. however, as i stated before i verified i had 12 volts at heating element and verified all the connections from the thermistor back to the main board. I will retry the 303 again soon as i finish my breakfast lol...
Yes, it is the 12vt version of the revo.EDIT: tried again with the 303 and still cancels tuning with message temp not increasing. Sigh
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@wingtip said in Revo 6 PID tuning just hangs:
EDIT: ummm did they do away with the heightmap visual in recent updates? Again until a few days ago i was on a much older version.
It's a plugin now. You can enable it from the plugins tab.
https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Duet_Web_Control_Manual#plugins
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Can you post your full config.g?
Also please send M122 and M98 P"config.g" in the gcode console tab and copy and paste the results here. -
m122
=== Diagnostics ===
RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.4 (2022-10-20 16:17:41) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
Board ID: 08DGM-917NK-F2MS4-7JKD6-3SN6K-9GU4G
Used output buffers: 1 of 26 (23 max)
=== RTOS ===
Static ram: 23860
Dynamic ram: 75584 of which 12 recycled
Never used RAM 12624, free system stack 176 words
Tasks: NETWORK(notifyWait,13.3%,242) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,223) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,363) DUEX(notifyWait,0.0%,24) MAIN(running,86.7%,438) IDLE(ready,0.0%,30), total 100.0%
Owned mutexes:
=== Platform ===
Last reset 00:59:59 ago, cause: power up
Last software reset at 2022-10-23 03:36, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 12480, slot 2
Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
Error status: 0x00
Aux0 errors 0,0,0
Step timer max interval 0
MCU temperature: min 22.2, current 23.3, max 28.2
Supply voltage: min 11.9, current 12.0, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
Driver 0: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 1: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 2: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 3: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 4: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 5: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 6: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 7: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 8: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 9: standstill, SG min n/a
Driver 10:
Driver 11:
Date/time: 2022-10-23 12:59:31
Cache data hit count 4294967295
Slowest loop: 32.55ms; fastest: 0.18ms
I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
=== Storage ===
Free file entries: 10
SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
SD card longest read time 1.1ms, write time 139.2ms, max retries 0
=== Move ===
DMs created 83, segments created 0, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== Heat ===
Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
=== GCodes ===
Segments left: 0
Movement lock held by null
HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
File is idle in state(s) 0
USB is idle in state(s) 0
Aux is idle in state(s) 0
Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
Queue is idle in state(s) 0
LCD is idle in state(s) 0
Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
Code queue is empty
=== DueX ===
Read count 1, 0.02 reads/min
=== Network ===
Slowest loop: 331.60ms; fastest: 0.00ms
Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0)
HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
= WiFi =
Network state is active
WiFi module is connected to access point
Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
WiFi firmware version 1.27
WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:89:a2:58
WiFi Vcc 3.42, reset reason Turned on by main processor
WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 25232
WiFi IP address 192.168.1.7
WiFi signal strength -48dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
Clock register 00002002
Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -
m98
Error: M98: No P or R parameterHighly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.
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; config.g
; executed by the firmware on start-up; general preferences
G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M550 P"The Big One" ; set printer name; communications
M552 S1 ; enable network
M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue; drives
M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes reverse
M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes reverse
M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes reverse
M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
M569 P5 S0 ; physical drive 5 goes reverseM584 X0:3 Y1 Z2:5 E4 ; set drive mapping
M92 X391.113 Y78.812 Z392.117 E397.022 ; set steps per mm
M203 X4000 Y4000 Z800 E6000 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M566 X300 Y300 Z180 E3000 P1 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M201 X700 Y700 Z200 E3000 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1400 Y1000 Z700 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per centM84 S30 ; set idle timeout
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
; axis limits
M208 X0:655 Y0:440 Z0:400 ; set axes min/max
; endstops
M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop+!e0stop" ; configure active-high endstops for low end on X
M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y; Z probe
M98 P"probe_config.g" ; configure Z probe by invoking gcode file
; bed heater
M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
M307 H0 R0.257 C549.0 D2.37 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0; tool heater
M308 S1 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; define E1 temperature sensor (old v6 value C7.06e-8)
M950 H1 C"e1heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
M307 H1 R1.350 K0.427:0.039 D6.10 E1.35 S1.00 B0 V11.6 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit, (pidm303t0s236 not t1)
M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1; part cooling fan
M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off; tool cooling fan
M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on; tool 0
M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set tool active and standby temperatures
T0 ; set tool active -
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M98 P"config.g"
HTTP is enabled on port 80
FTP is disabled
TELNET is disabled -
And you're sure the heater is connected to e1heat?
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I will re verify, however, nothing has changed as this config g had been working just fine. it just sat for close to a year since i last printed and all i changed was updating the firmware and replace the v6 with a revo 6. it was almost just plug and play. i only had to install a xt 30 connector to the heater cable and it does show continuity through the coil at that connector. its when i went to try to pid tune that things just decided to causing grief...
