Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist

chrishamm

@nomukaiki See here. Just be aware that the object model (available via rr_model) is preferred because it's exposed by DSF and Duets in standalone mode whereas status responses are not provided by DSF (although you could write an emulator plugin for rr_ requests using the latest DSF beta).

nomukaiki

@chrishamm many thanks!
I feel silly not having seen this before from the root of the firmware spec. I was under the impression that the network was a separate module.

arhi

@nomukaiki said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

@arhi What do you really like about Printoid?

there is nothing special about it that I specifically like. I like it as it is so far the best app for octoprint that I tried (I did not try many I have to admit), and I like that it works on "el crap" 25eur android phone that I have a bunch of.

@chrishamm said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

What platform are you talking about? If you're looking for an Android app, I made one years ago, although I guess I could polish it again. Anyway, it's still working on Android 11 and lets you find Duets conveniently on the same network.

android and ios but mostly android if you ask me. might be cool if you had that app open source if someone is maybe interested to upgrade it . it's not very "application like" it's more like web from what I see.. but I don't see anything else available..

T3P3Tony

@arhi said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

might be cool if you had that app open source

@chrishamm said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

The source code is available here: https://github.com/Duet3D/FindMyDuet

nomukaiki

How would you rank or score the below features for a native app?
Can you please reply with your preferred order of importance? Most important on top. Thanks.

1- Available on very old devices (Android, iOS)
2- Open source
3- Auto discovery of printers on local network
4- 3d GCode preview and sync current printing layer
5- Live webcam
6- Timelapses
7- Full management/control/configuration of Duet printer (similar to DWC)
8- Reduced set of features but adapted for mobile devices (similar to Printoid or DuetPanel)
9- Status change push notifications
10- Temperature chart with download full graph option
11- Dark/Light colour themes
12- AI detection of failed print (detect skipping filament steps, part detached from base and stringing printing)
13- Easy and secure remote access from outside of local network

My preferred order:
8, 4, 9, 5, 13, 11, 12, 3, 6, 1, 10, 7, 2

arhi

@nomukaiki said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

How would you rank'

1- Available on very old devices (Android 4.1 with 128-256MB RAM)
2- Open source
5- Live webcam
13- multiple printers supported in same time
7- Full control (management and configuration - irrelevant)

jay_s_uk

remote access to a duet in a similar fashion that can can be done with octoprint
obviously an SBC would be required for this though

Sindarius

At one point some time ago I started work on a flutter app to control my printers. Been so busy with other projects I haven’t been able to get back to it.

https://youtu.be/u6HS1jbjhvA

There is a lot of potential to build some creative duet controls depending on need.

nomukaiki

@Sindarius said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

I started work on a flutter app to control my printers

This is great. Hopefully I will manage to go a bit further. I am focusing first on the application core (network, data layer, reactive services, etc) and then will do the UI. But I also got the basics working quickly, so there is hope

jay_s_uk

@nomukaiki free for testing if you need any.
I have enough machines to play with

nomukaiki

@jay_s_uk said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

@nomukaiki free for testing if you need any.
I have enough machines to play with

That will be super useful! Thanks! I am interested to speaking with you about the "remote access" that you suggested. I am not sure what other type of remote access you are suggesting. Is it about accessing the printers outside of your local network?

jay_s_uk

@nomukaiki yea. Similar to this for octoprint https://plugins.octoprint.org/plugins/anywhere/

Feel free to pm me

arhi

@jay_s_uk said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

@nomukaiki yea. Similar to this for octoprint https://plugins.octoprint.org/plugins/anywhere/

telegram is the best solution for this out there attm imho.
in order to communicate with your printer you either need to allow access to it from the wan (port forwarding - complicated to many users, unsafe..) or you need your printer to initiate connection and in this case you need a "server" somewhere on the internet (the way "anywhere", "the spaghetty..", "telegram" and some other plugins work)... telegram's bot system is awesome and alow you to create super complicate system for free

jay_s_uk

telegram was what I used to use back in the octoprint days.

nomukaiki

@arhi said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

you need your printer to initiate connection

Is this already available on Duet? Can it be configured to do a "ping" to a configured host?

arhi

@nomukaiki said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

@arhi said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

you need your printer to initiate connection

Is this already available on Duet? Can it be configured to do a "ping" to a configured host?

nope, it is not

Sindarius

@nomukaiki I meant to say #4 will send you down a deep dark rabbit hole. I have been putting time into a 3D viewer plugin for the upcoming 3.2 DWC.

nomukaiki

@Sindarius that's really great! Nice job so far. I can definitely embed a web component, but I would prefer to have a more native experience/responsiveness on the app. But I agree with you that it would be almost an app by itself (as a development effort). Maybe you would be happy to learn dartlang and do contribute?

nomukaiki

@jay_s_uk said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

remote access to a duet in a similar fashion that can can be done with octoprint
obviously an SBC would be required for this though

I've added it to my list as the new number 13.

whopping pochard

I am sooo excited about this. I'm using a cheap Android tablet as a PanelDue alternative, and a native app would be amazing.

So for me:
8,9,2,10,1,4,5,6,13,,3,12,11

High on my list is responsiveness, at-a-glance information display, and macro access and execution.

Please make sure we have a way to pay you a little bit for your time!