Auto Bed Compensation - Too Slow?

ajcraig99

@phaedrux Sorry but im not too sure, most of the settings I got from the firmware builder (https://configurator.reprapfirmware.org/) and didn't save the .json file.

To get sensorless homing working, I stole alot of the code from this post.

https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/3585/working-config-for-sensorless-homing-on-a-corexy/10

I have a Z offset in my config.g , Is this what you mean by calibration?

G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P600               ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height

When I try to run G30 i get the following error:

08:44:28   G30 S-2     Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move

Changes made since my last post where as directed by whosrdaddy, my new M558 line is

;M558 P1 I0 R0.4 F1800 X0 Y0 Z0   ;Define Z probe as peizo digital - Old
M558 P8 I0 R0.4 F1800 X0 Y0 Z0    ;Define Z probe as peizo digital - New

Now if I run G32 it will just move to each of the 5 points without probing, instead just returning that same error.

I'm so lost man

Phaedrux

You're getting really close.

To get the trigger height you'll need to follow these instructions.

https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

I'm not sure what the ideal settings for the piezoelectric probe are. I think there are a few threads dealing with setting them up specifically. A quick search should get you that.

Ckostikas

@ajcraig99 said in Auto Bed Compensation - Too Slow?:

M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X9000 Y9000 Z600 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)

Maybe you have to adjust those two z speeds to get it working quicker

ajcraig99

@phaedrux Working through that dynamic calibration procedure and I can't get past the G30 S-1 stage,
It just crashes into the bed and doesn't trigger the probe.

Does my homez.g use the M558 line from config.g? since homez.g works I would expect this line to be correct if it is using it right?

if my homez.g doesn't use the M558 line then I guess my issue lies here.

I changed I0 to I1 in the M558 line to change to a normally closed switch and now I don't get the error "Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move" so at least it tries to probe now.

So I currently have

M558 P8 I1 R0.4 F1800 X0 Y0 Z0    ;Define Z probe as peizo digital - New

Phaedrux

@ajcraig99 when you did the g30 s-1 test did you first change your trigger height in the G31 command to 0 in the config.g?

Also try changing the trigger sensitivity to a lower value. That's the P value of the G31 command in config.g. try 100 instead of 600.

ajcraig99

@phaedrux

Ensure that the Z offset in G1 in config.g is set to 0, these steps will be used to measure this actual offset. (send G31 >Z0 to set it to 0).

I though I did but misread that as G31, I have a G31 line where Z=0 (was Z-0.1) but no G1 line in my Config.g

Isn't G1 just 'move'? Do I need to add another line in config.g with just

G1 Z0

?

Phaedrux

Yes I think that's a typo.

ajcraig99

Ok, 1 step forward, 1 step backwards.

G31 changed to G1 with Z0 but now when I issue G30 S-1 it starts the manual bed probing wizard.

M558 is still set to P8 rather than the P0 I would expect to cause this...

Phaedrux

Nope that should be G31. The g1 is a typo.

Phaedrux

I think I would go back through the piezo documentation from the start and follow it to the letter.

Once you get through that if it still doesn't work we can review your config.g and homing files.

ajcraig99

Typo fixed. Still crashes into the bed.

Have been through the peizo documentation pretty thoroughly over the last week or so. It's not very detailed but I have checked the polarity and got the sensitivity tuned.

It just takes a light tap when running homez.g

https://youtu.be/OKaQNF0DIy0

 G1 S1 Z-295 F1800 ; move Z down until the switch triggers

Snnn Flag to check if an endstop was hit (S1 to check, S0 to ignore, S2+S3 see note, default is S0) 1

Am I right in thinking that the above waits for an endstop to be triggered (which does get triggered in this case) whereas G31 waits for a probe to be triggered ie a different tool or input compared to above?

When I run G31 with the bed 100mm or so away from the nozzle, i can manually trigger the peizo, causing the red light to flash but it ignores it.

Phaedrux

So you should not be using G1 S1 Z-295 F1800 in your homez.g. That is only if you are using a mechanical end stop switch. You should be using G30, which tells the system to probe the bed to find z=0.

So lets clear up some terminology because I think it's a little confused right now.

G1 commands are movements. In the command above, the S1 switch tells it to move until an endstop is hit.

G30 tells the system to do a probe. It uses the settings specified in the config.g (G31 and M558) to tell it what kind of probe it is and how it's configured. It then moves the head down until the probe triggers. It takes the trigger height offset and says if I triggered here, the bed is here, and so it knows where z=0 is and can move accurately going forward. G30 is used by your homing files and the various bed leveling options.

G31 belongs in the config.g and defines the physical location of the probe in relation to the nozzle. In your case the nozzle is the probe, so the X and Y values are 0. The Z value tells it what height the nozzle is when it triggers. According to the piezo documentation it should be -0.1 because it actually presses into the bed a little bit.

M558 also in config.g defines the probe type and how it should behave during a G30 command.

So your config.g should have the following lines in it.

M574 Z1 S2						; Use zprobe and home to Z Min.
M558 P8 I1 H5 F300 T6000                 ; Use piezo digital probe type, invert the signal, probe from 5mm height, probe at 300mm/min, travel between probe points at 6000mm/min.
G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P100
M557 X10:280 Y35:270 S15				; Define mesh grid

Then your homeall.g should look something like this.

; Drop the bed for travel
;
G91                     	; relative positioning
G1 Z5 F200 S2        		; Lower bed 5mm to ensure it is below the switch trigger height

; Home XY
;
G1 S1 X-375 Y305 F4000   	; course home X or Y
G1 S1 X-375 F4000              	; course home X
G1 S1 Y305 F4000              	; course home Y
G1 X5 Y-5 F1000             	; move away from the endstops
G1 S1 X-10 F600           	; fine home X
G1 S1 Y10 F600               	; fine home Y

; Home Z
G90				; absolute positioning
G1 X190 Y90 F6000		; Move x and Y axis over to bed center so probe is on top of bed
G30 				; Do a single probe to home our Z axis

; Move X and Y back Home
;
G1 X1 Y270 Z5

ajcraig99

Thankyou, I've updated the code and will revisit the peizo setup again.

Phaedrux

No problem. You're quite close.

The configurator gives a starting point but there are a lot of pitfalls with the option choices. It can take a bit of manual tuning to get it right.

ajcraig99

Just reporting back to say I got everything working now. Thankyou very much for the help. The code snippets you posted above are working perfectly.

The issue was entirely user error on my part. I had the probe wired up to the 'Z Stop' on the board instead of 'Z Probe'. A tonne of hassle over a simple mistake but atleast it's sorted now.

Cheers

Phaedrux

Glad to hear it's all working now.