SOLVED - Heater Temp not increasing after initial test.
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So i just noticed something on my paneldue when it starts up.... doesnt show up in the web console for some reason... but it says T0 hasnt been set up and that the bed seems to be overpowered.
I think my bed and nozzle are competing for the same tool definition in the config.. not sure how to fix it... i swapped the numbers and got the nozzle to start increasing temp normally but only by setting the bed temp and activating... can i fix this in my config or do i need to change something in my .json?
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@phaedrux i think theres something up with the definition of my heaters... can you look it over and see if its odd with the bed and primary tool being the way they are?
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Is this what you still have for your heater definitions?
; Heaters M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0 M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0 M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1 M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C ; Fans M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on ; Tools M563 P0 S"Nozzle" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0 G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C -
@phaedrux said in Heater Temperature not increasing after initial test.:
M303 H0 S200
Sorry, this should have been H1. H0 is the bed. H1 is the nozzle heater.
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@phaedrux yes that’s what my config has
And lol ya I figured out it should have been h1.
But ya… no joy. But when I swapped the T0 and T1 when I activated the bed heater my nozzle started climbing at normal speed… but of course since it was looking for the bed to raise temp is errored out with the temp not increasing message. So I swapped it back and am trying to see what I did wrong in my configuration helper…
Do I need to do it again after upgrading from 2.x firmware to 3.x firmware… then to the latest version? Or did telling the configuration tool that I was coming from 2.x to 3.x automatically update everything needed after then just updating to the latest version?
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@phaedrux said in Heater Temperature not increasing after initial test.:
Next try tuning the heater again and take a screen shot of the temp graph and capture the complete error message if you get one.
Can you grab that?
I'm not sure what you mean with the rrf2 vs rrf3 questions.
Has your config changed from the one posted above?
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No it’s the same. I was following the migrating from 2 to 3 guide and didn’t know if I did something wrong when the reprap configurator asks you what firmware your running… figure it’s the same now since the system files all have the color coded look like the new version I’m running on my modix.
And I’m not sure the temp graph will show much of anything… temp barely climbs 1c before it errors out saying it’s increasing too slow. But I’ll have to get a screenshot tomorrow. Left the shop for the evening.
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@anvil said in Heater Temperature not increasing after initial test.:
And I’m not sure the temp graph will show much of anything… temp barely climbs 1c before it errors out saying it’s increasing too slow. But I’ll have to get a screenshot tomorrow. Left the shop for the evening.
Does the temp graph show a rise in temp if you just hold the hotend in your hand for a bit?
Does Rapido give you some values to use for this thermistor?
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yes temp rises with holding it in my hand and matches if i plug in my stock hotend... i spoke with other people who have installed rapido on ender hardware and all have said it was just plug and play. I just swapped out connectors on the wires only thing changed isI wanted to update to the latest firmware... So i used reprap configurator to reconfigure for updating firmware from 2.x to latest via duet documentation guide....
It just feels like i did something wrong in the configurator but im not sure what... like i mentioned when i swapped the tool numbers in the config.g for bed and heater and enabled the bed heater... the nozzle started climbing normally. I just cant figure out how to swap them in system files... It seems like whats going on now is bed and nozzle are both configured to same tool and the bed got the spot and nozzle is in limbo somewhere.
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does anything in my congig-override seem odd? should my H1 say V0? considering the bed says 24.1...
; config-override.g file generated in response to M500 at 2022-09-16 11:17
; This is a system-generated file - do not edit
; Heater model parameters
M307 H0 A108.5 C416.2 D6.8 S1.00 V24.1 B0
M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
; Workplace coordinates
G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00 -
Jeeze man and now this morning when i boot up there is no heater button on paneldue
WHAT THE EFF IS GOING ON
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@anvil said in PLEASE HELP- Heater Temp not increasing after initial test.:
; Heater model parameters
M307 H0 A108.5 C416.2 D6.8 S1.00 V24.1 B0
M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0Delete these lines from your config.g
And please post your current config.g.
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@phaedrux said in PLEASE HELP- Heater Temp not increasing after initial test.:
@anvil said in PLEASE HELP- Heater Temp not increasing after initial test.:
; Heater model parameters
M307 H0 A108.5 C416.2 D6.8 S1.00 V24.1 B0
M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0Delete these lines from your config.g (do you mean config-override? those lines arent in my gonfig.g)
And please post your current config.g.
current config.g
; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3.3)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
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; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.13 on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:45:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time); General preferences
M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M550 P"Ender 5 Plus IWS" ; set printer name; Network
M552 S1 ; enable network
M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet; Drives
M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80.56 Y80.49 Z801.62 E674.42 ; set steps per mm
M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E300.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z300.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1200 I10 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout; Axis Limits
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
M208 X350 Y350 Z400 S0 ; set axis maxima; Endstops
M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z; Z-Probe
M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F180 T12000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
G31 P500 X42 Y11 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M556 S50 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set orthogonal axis compensation parameters
M557 X0:315 Y0:315 S25 ; define mesh grid; Heaters
M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
M950 H1 C"!e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on !e0heat and map it to sensor 1
M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C; Fans
M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on; Tools
M563 P1 S"Nozzle" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 1
G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C; Custom settings are not defined
; Miscellaneous
M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss -
can i just delete everything in my config-override?
and also i just changed
M950 H1 C"!e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on !e0heat and map it to sensor 1
to
M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
i forgot i tried to invert it to see if that worked.
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Just for giggles and grins I tried to see if maybe they somehow sent me a rapido plus with the pt1000 and temp read 2000c so its not that.
phaetus has the regular thermistor listed as a Semitec 104NT4 thermistor
104NT-4-R025H42Gif that makes any difference?
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@anvil said in PLEASE HELP- Heater Temp not increasing after initial test.:
a Semitec 104NT4 thermistor
Do they give any values for that thermistor?
Doing some googling it looks like the same as the E3D thermistor and it uses these settings
M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 -
change in thermistor values made no difference.
I dont understand how changing the hotend thermistor values would change anything if when i swap T0 and T1 in the m307 definition in the config the nozzle then works and increases in temperature until it dead times out from the bed thermistor not reading an increase in temperature.
Does it not seem like a config issue of some sort? I figured that changing those tool numbers sort of indicated that its a config issue... like the reprap configurator has gotten something wrong or I input something wrong in it and then its burried in the .json file somewhere and i just dont know...
Ive reached out to phaetus to ask if there is anything im missing or if there is any values they may know of.
Is the forum the only place to get support for an issue like this? I really need to get this sorted out asap.
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How do you have it wired? Your config doesn't define a t1 at all so not sure how changing that makes a difference.
Can you show how it's wired?
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Its sort of a process to remove and open the enclosure....but i have the heater wires coming out of the e0 output connector.... but i think im finding my issue...in the reprap configurator
SO... currently its labeled like this for the I/O mapping/ heaters and tools
but it looks like in the I/O mapping section i should swap nozzle and heater so the nozzle output is on 0 and the bed is on 1
but when i do that and go to the tool define section It wont let me select the H1 option it just keeps it N/A
should i just swap the wires to the e1 heater output maybe and see if that works?
Im not understanding why it wont let me select the nozzle as the 0 heater in the mapping page and also define it as a tool. and i tried changing it to tool 1 but it still doesnt work
