Z-drives not moving, new Duet3

droftarts

@heide said in Z-drives not moving, new Duet3:

With Z3

25.3.2022 14.43.33 M669
Kinematics is CoreXY, no segmentation, modified matrix:
1.00 1.00 0
1.00 -1.00 0
3.00 0 0

You don't want the Z to move 3 times what X is moving, and not move with Z, which is what that shows. Use M669 K1, it's correct. If Z is rumbling, sound more like the motors are blocked from moving mechanically.

K1 Z3 thats also what the RRF for coreXY has. But not working

Where did this come from? It's not what the configuration tool produces.

Ian

Heide

@droftarts After the build and lining the linear rails. I could move the gantry with my little finger. After I have assembled it with belts I can move it without any problems (there are resistance, but nothing out of the ordinary) . I am positive that there are no tight assembly.

But maybe the assemble of the wire on the motor is wrong??? I change it the other day for all the motors. But there not any problems with the X and Y.

Heide

I forgot about the K1 Z3. It is from the configuring of RRF for coreXY printer. I can not remember what the original code was from Config tool. But I will try with the tool again

Heide

This is when homing Z.

But I would think that it's normal, when not homed

Heide

I have tried to move the gantry up and down (I'm not happy doing that, but I wanted to be sure that there are normal movement), and it feels as it should

Heide

If I use this command it gantry moved up, without any problem.

G91
G1 H2 Z300 F3000

droftarts

@heide I've edited your first post to put your config and homing files in code tags, which makes it easier to read and find the relevant bits.

I think this is an endstop issue. Your Z homing is using two methods:

When you call 'homez.g', it uses an endstop switch, and it is configured to trigger at the MINIMUM Z, ie when the nozzle touches the bed, with M574 Z1 S1 P"io3.in". Is this correct? The homing move is G1 H1 Z-200 F100, so it's moving the bed up. Also, a quirk of homing is that it relies on the M208 settings; currently you have the Z maximum set to M208 Z300, so it's possible for the Z axis to move and not hit the endstop. This may also cause homing to fail.

When you call 'homeall.g', it's using the Z probe. homeall.g should work correctly, assuming the probe is configured correctly.

The comments in the config.g are slightly confusing. It talks about moving Z up and down. But this is based on a machine that moves the nozzle in Z, eg Prusa i3. For a CoreXY, think of it 'Z up' as 'increasing the distance between bed and nozzle' and vice versa for 'Z down'.

Edit: Sorry, I see in your later edit to homez.g and homeall.g that you are using just endstops, not probe.

droftarts

@heide Can you describe where your Z endstop is? Is it the same as the Z probe? If so, you just want to use G30 for homing Z, not command a move.

Ian

Heide

@droftarts the endstop is not assigned as the probe. It's placed near the bed.
I have tested it, and it works.

@droftarts said in Z-drives not moving, new Duet3:

hen you call 'homez.g', it uses an endstop switch, and it is configured to trigger at the MINIMUM Z, ie when the nozzle touches the bed, with M574 Z1 S1 P"io3.in". Is this correct? The homing move is G1 H1 Z-200 F100, so it's moving the bed up. Also, a quirk of homing is that it relies on the M208 settings; currently you have the Z maximum set to M208 Z300, so it's possible for the Z axis to move and not hit the endstop. This may also cause homing to fail.

M574 Z1 S1 P"io3.in" correct
Just to be clear the bed is not moving, the gantry is.
I will a just the Z to 400

droftarts

@heide said in Z-drives not moving, new Duet3:

Just to be clear the bed is not moving, the gantry is.

Ah, yes, forgot it was a Voron!

the endstop is not assigned as the probe. It's placed near the bed.

I realise that now, looking at the assigned pins for Z endstop and probe. However, if you have a probe, and you can home with that, what is the function of the endstop? It would be better to have it at the top of the machine, furthest from the bed. That way, in the event of a loss of power, you can home Z to the top, and continue printing. Home at the bottom, and you're more likely to hit the print.

I will a just the Z to 400

Yes, just needs to be bigger than the value set by M208.

Ian

Heide

@droftarts I learn all the time, but that make sens somehow. But I my case it does not matter witch one I use. I does not move at all. It moves when I punch in this code
G91
G1 H2 Z300 F3000

droftarts

@heide Hmm. I think that as that works, it's got to be a configuration issue. Can you post your current config.g, homez.g and homeall.g, preferably in code tags </> on the editing bar. Also post response to M122 and M98 P"config.g"

Ian

Heide

@droftarts Here is it. I hope that I have done it correctly with the </>, have never used it, but I will gladly learn it.

; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3.3)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue Mar 22 2022 17:37:43 GMT+0100 (Centraleuropæisk normaltid)

; General preferences
M575 P1 S1 B57600                                          ; enable support for PanelDue
G90                                                        ; send absolute coordinates...
M83                                                        ; ...but relative extruder moves
M550 P"Heides Printer"                                     ; set printer name
M669 K1                                                    ; select CoreXY mode


; Wait a moment for the CAN expansion boards to start
G4 S2

; Network
M552 P192.168.0.110 S1                                     ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
M586 P0 S1                                                 ; enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0                                                 ; disable FTP
M586 P2 S0                                                 ; disable Telnet

; Drives
M569 P0.0 S1                                               ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards, drive E
M569 P1.0 S1                                               ; physical drive 1.0 goes forwards, drive A
M569 P0.1 S1                                               ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards, drive Z1
M569 P1.1 S1                                               ; physical drive 1.1 goes forwards, drive B
M569 P0.2 S0                                               ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards, drive Z2
M569 P0.3 S1                                               ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards, drive Z3
M569 P0.4 S0                                               ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards, drive Z4
M584 X1.0 Y1.1 Z0.1:0.2:0.3:0.4 E0.0                       ; set drive mapping
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I0                                        ; configure microstepping without interpolation
M350 E16 I1                                                ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X53.333 Y53.333 Z53.333 E397.00                        ; set steps per mm
M566 X720.00 Y720.00 Z150.00 E600.00                       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z2400.00 E6000.00                 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X2000.00 Y2000.00 Z250.00 E1800.00                    ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X900 Y900 Z900 E1000 I30                              ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30                                                    ; Set idle timeout

; Axis Limits
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                           ; set axis minima
M208 X300 Y300 Z300 S0                                     ; set axis maxima

; Endstops
M574 X1 S1 P"!io1.in"                                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin !io0.in
M574 Y1 S1 P"!io2.in"                                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop Y1 = low-end on Y via pin !io1.in
M574 Z1 S1 P"io3.in"                                       ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop U1 = low-end, S1 = active-high (NC) on Z via pin io3.in

; Z-Probe
M558 P5 A5 S0.01 B0 R0.2 C"^io4.in" H5 F1000:400 T4500 I0  ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
M558 H30                                                   ;*** Remove this line after delta calibration has been done and new delta parameters have been saved
G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5                                        ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 X50:250 Y50:250 S20                                   ; define mesh grid

; Bed leveling
M671 X-65:-65:365:365 Y-20:380:380:-20 S20                 ; Define Z belts location (Front_Left, Back_Left, Back_Right, Front_Right)
M557 X25:275 Y25:275 S25                                   ; Define bed mesh grid (inductive probe, positions include the Z offset!)

; Heaters
M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950               ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                         ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
M307 H0 B1 S1.00                                           ; 100% PWM, bang-bang mode for the bed heater
M140 H0                                                    ; map heated bed to heater 0
M143 H0 S120                                               ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8      ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                         ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                           ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
M143 H1 S300                                               ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C

; Fans
M950 F0 C"out4" Q500                                       ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency
M106 P0 S0 H-1                                             ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
M950 F1 C"out5" Q500                                       ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
M106 P1 S1 I0 H1 T50                                       ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on when temp reaches 50 °C
M950 F2 C"out7" Q500                                       ; create fan 2 on pin out7 and set its frequency. Electronics bay fan, turn on gradually if MCU is over 45 °C or any TMC driver is over temp
M106 P2 T45:65 F50 H-1                                     ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
M950 F3 C"out8" Q500                                       ; create fan 3 on pin out8 and set its frequency. Electronics bay fan, turn on gradually if MCU is over 45 °C or any TMC driver is over temp
M106 P3 T45:65 F50 H-1                                     ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 F1                                           ; define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                            ; set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0                                               ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

T0
; Custom settings are not defined


; homeall.g
; called to home all axes
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue Mar 22 2022 17:37:43 GMT+0100 (Centraleuropæisk normaltid)

G91                     ; relative mode
G1 H1 X-240 Y-240 F3000 ; coarse home X or Y
G1 H1 X400             ; coarse home X
G1 H1 Y400             ; coarse home Y
G1 X4 Y4 F600           ; move away from the endstops
G1 H1 X-100              ; fine home X
G1 H1 Y-5              ; fine home Y
G1 H2 Z4 F200           ; raise head 4mm to ensure it is above the switch trigger height
G90                     ; back to absolute mode
G1 X0 Y0 F2000          ; put the head wherever you want it to be when you home Z (omit this line if it doesn't matter)
G91                     ; relative mode
G1 H1 Z-400 F100        ; move Z down until the switch triggers
G90                     ; back to absolute mode
G92 Z0.3                ; tell the firmware that we are at Z=0.3mm

; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
;G91                    ; relative positioning
;G1 Z5 F100             ; lift Z relative to current position
;G90                    ; absolute positioning


; homez.g
; called to home the Z axis
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue Mar 22 2022 17:37:43 GMT+0100 (Centraleuropæisk normaltid)
G91              ; relative mode
G1 H2 Z4 F200    ; raise head 4mm to ensure it is above the switch trigger height
G90              ; back to absolute mode
G1 X-5 Y-100 F2000   ; put the head wherever you want it to be when you home Z (omit this line if it doesn't matter)
G91              ; relative mode
G1 H1 Z-400 F100 ; move Z down until the switch triggers
G90              ; back to absolute mode
G92 Z0.3         ; tell the firmware that we are at Z=0.3mm

; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
;G91                  ; relative positioning
;G1 H2 Z5 F100        ; lift Z relative to current position
;G90                  ; absolute positioning

25.3.2022 16.54.32	M122
=== Diagnostics ===
RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.4.0 (2022-03-15 18:57:24) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (standalone mode)
Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TN-6J9FL-3S86R-9TB6T
Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (13 max)
=== RTOS ===
Static ram: 151000
Dynamic ram: 96452 of which 128 recycled
Never used RAM 103092, free system stack 200 words
Tasks: NETWORK(ready,26.4%,209) ETHERNET(notifyWait,0.0%,173) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,321) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,352) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,797) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,374) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,339) TMC(notifyWait,8.0%,92) MAIN(running,65.6%,925) IDLE(ready,0.0%,30), total 100.0%
Owned mutexes:
=== Platform ===
Last reset 00:31:53 ago, cause: software
Last software reset at 2022-03-25 16:22, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 103052, slot 2
Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00400000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
Error status: 0x00
Aux0 errors 0,0,0
Step timer max interval 132
MCU temperature: min 45.0, current 45.6, max 45.9
Supply voltage: min 23.8, current 23.8, max 23.9, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
12V rail voltage: min 11.9, current 12.0, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0
Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
Driver 0: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 48246, writes 14 timeouts 0
Driver 1: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 312, reads 48246, writes 14 timeouts 0
Driver 2: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 728, reads 48246, writes 14 timeouts 0
Driver 3: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 312, reads 48246, writes 14 timeouts 0
Driver 4: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 728, reads 48246, writes 14 timeouts 0
Driver 5: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 48250, writes 11 timeouts 0
Date/time: 2022-03-25 16:54:31
Slowest loop: 17.39ms; fastest: 0.05ms
=== Storage ===
Free file entries: 10
SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 25.0MBytes/sec
SD card longest read time 3.2ms, write time 2.4ms, max retries 0
=== Move ===
DMs created 125, segments created 0, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== Heat ===
Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
=== GCodes ===
Segments left: 0
Movement lock held by null
HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
File is idle in state(s) 0
USB is idle in state(s) 0
Aux is idle in state(s) 0
Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
Queue is idle in state(s) 0
LCD is idle in state(s) 0
SBC is idle in state(s) 0
Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
Code queue is empty
=== CAN ===
Messages queued 17221, received 15313, lost 0, boc 0
Longest wait 1ms for reply type 6042, peak Tx sync delay 372, free buffers 50 (min 49), ts 9568/9567/0
Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0
=== Network ===
Slowest loop: 63.78ms; fastest: 0.02ms
Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
- Ethernet -
State: active
Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 0 0 0


25.3.2022 16.56.11	M98 P"config.g"
HTTP is enabled on port 80
FTP is disabled
TELNET is disabled
Error: Bad command: **Put G/M Codes in here to run when Tool 0 is about to be activated**
Error: G0/G1: insufficient axes homed

droftarts

@heide It's the </> icon on the editing bar above, puts in these:

code_text

JoergS5

@heide said in Z-drives not moving, new Duet3:
G1 H1 X-240 Y-240 F3000 ; coarse home X or Y

G1 H1 X400 ; coarse home X

G1 H1 Y400 ; coarse home Y

G1 X4 Y4 F600 ; move away from the endstops

G1 H1 X-100 ; fine home X

G1 H1 Y-5 ; fine home Y

there's a glitch in your homeall: X400 Y400 should be -400 and -400, please see example at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCoreXYPrinter#Section_Homing_files
After homing movement of X and Y together, X and Y shall be moved into the same direction (negative X and Y) again some distance. This shall ensure that both X and Y are homed. Then a litte backwards (which is positive value here) and slowly with - again to the endstops.

Heide

@joergs5 I will change this tomorrow. But I'm sure that I have already tried it. (I have tried so many things today)

JoergS5

@heide said in Z-drives not moving, new Duet3:

tried it. (I have tried so many things today)

The risk is high that you mixed something up by trying different things.

First thing to check is that G1 H1 X-100 and Y-100 move your hotend into the correct direction toward the endstops. Then please try my proposal.

What I do if I am not sure about correct codes, I run them line by line directly in the DWC command line and check that in this case the first, second, third endstops are triggered as expected. There are a few G-Code commands which can be run only in a specific order (drive additions and their mappings), but most commands can be tested this way.

Heide

@joergs5 I will, and I am aware that it is posible to mix up code. But every time I change it to something else, I whipe the code and saves it i Word. Then I can retur to it later. Then I try a New code. But the ideer about taking a step at a time is brilliant. Did'nt think in that direction

droftarts

@heide said in Z-drives not moving, new Duet3:

Error: Bad command: Put G/M Codes in here to run when Tool 0 is about to be activated

Just to explain this error; you have T0 in your config.g, so the tool change macros get run. As no tool is selected, only tpre.g and tpost.g are being run. It looks like the text at the beginning of one of these files is not commented out correctly, with a semicolon ; as the first character.

I've had a good look at your files, but I can't see what's stopping the homing working. I think try @JoergS5 suggestion of stepping through the GCode of homeall.g and homez.g, and see what works correctly and what doesn't.

Ian

Heide

@droftarts thanks for the time you have used. And I am really sad that there are no errors, because I then maybe have a problem. I just can get it. It can run with no errors, with the code I postes earlyer today, when I tested. I will do as @JoergS5 proposed.