Two seperate Z Axis Printer

[theBohnanza]

Hello
I have a setup with two Printheads, which are mounted on seperate z Axis.
When toolchanging i want to move the printhead away. I have tool Change Scripts which rewire the Drives to the Z Axis. Everything works, except, after i run homeall.g the Extruder drive doesn't work anymore. It is enabled, but it doesn't turn.

; homeall.g
; called to home all axes
G91 ; relative positioning
M98 P"homez.g"
G1 S1 X-600 Y-400 F4000 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
G1 S1 X-600 ; home X axis
G1 S1 Y-400 ; home Y axis
G1 X5 Y5 F4000 ; go back a few mm
G1 S1 X-10 F500 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
G1 S1 Y-10 ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
G90 ; absolute positioning

I commented every Gcode out, to find, which is confusing the E Settings. It seems to be M98 P"homez.g", but when i run homez seperately everything works fine.

; homez.g
; called to home the Z axis
;
T-1 P0
M584 Z5 U6
M92 Z274.8969 U1099.5876 ;different Steps/mm since these are 2 different motors
G91 ; relative positioning
G1 S1 Z150 U150 F1800 ; move Z up until the endstop is triggered

G1 Z-10 U-10 F1800
G1 S1 Z15 U15 F600

G90

M584 Z5:6 E3:4

M92 Z274.8969 E800:800 ; originally i didn't set E Steps here, i added them to try to find the error, but no difference

Do you guys have an idea, what could disrupt the Extruder settings when i call the homeall.g file?

Im running 2.04RC4 on duet2+duex5
Thanks in advance.
Cheers Alex

[aidar]

I belive you have to home x and y first, then z. So move your M98 command right before G90 in homeall.g and try again.

[deckingman]

@theBohnanza I see that you re-map the extruders to drives 3 and 4 at the end of your homez. So two questions. Why do you do that and does that mapping match what you have in your config.g? It'll probably be best if you post your config.g file because the issue might be related to something you have done there.

[theBohnanza]

Hi,
thanks for your suggestions.
@aidar sadly this didn't do any difference. Still Thanks for your input.
@deckingman
As i stated in the comment i didn't set E originally. I added it to narrow down the issue. But no difference.

My config is as follows.
; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Wed Jul 24 2019 11:33:21 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)

; General preferences
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode

; Network
M550 P"Peter" ; Set machine name
;M551 P"rep" ; Set password
M552 P10.13.12.11 S1 ; Enable network and set IP address
M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Set netmask
M554 P10.13.12.10 ; Set gateway
M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

; Drives

;M569 P1 S1
;M569 P2 S1
M569 P3 S0 ; E0Physical drive 3 goes forwards
M569 P4 S0 ; E1
M569 P5 S0 ; Z0 Physical drive 5 goes forwards
M569 P6 S1 ; Z1 Physical drive 6 goes forwards
;M569 P7 S1
;M569 P8 S1
;M569 P9 S1
M569 P10 S0 R1 T4:4:8:7 ; Servo1 Physical drive goes forwards
M569 P11 S1 R1 T4:4:8:7 ; Servo2 Physical drive goes forwards

M584 X10 Y11 Z5 E3:4 U6 ; ; Apply custom drive mapping

;M350 X1 Y1 I0 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
M350 Z16 E16:16 U16 I1 ;W16 A16 Configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X474.8 Y474.8 Z266.65 U1099.5876 E800.00:800.00 ; Set steps per mm948.16
M566 X300.00 Y300.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120 U12 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z1500.00 E1200.00:1200 U1500 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z500.00 E250.00:250 U500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 Z1900.00 E1580:1580 U1900 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

; Axis Limits
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 U0 S1 ; Set axis minima
M208 X445 Y200 Z109,9 U97 S0 ; Set axis maxima

; Endstops
M574 X1 Y1 Z2 U2 S1 ; Set active high endstops

; Z-Probe
M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
M557 X15:10 Y15:195 S20 ; Define mesh grid

; Heaters
M140 H-1 ; Disable heated bed
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
M143 H1 S260 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
M305 P2 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
M143 H2 S260 ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

; Fans
M106 P0 S0 I0 F1 H-1 T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P1 S0 I0 F1 H-1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P2 S1 I0 F1 H1 T5 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P3 S1 I0 F1 H2 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P4 S0 I0 F1 H-1 B0.3 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P5 S0 I0 F1 H-1 B0.3
M106 P6 S0 I0 F1 H-1 B0.3
M106 P7 S0 I0 F1 H-1 B0.3
M106 P8 S0 I0 F1 H-1 B0.3

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X-265 Y-35 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

M563 P1 D1 H2 ; Define tool 1
G10 P1 X-150 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 1 axis offsets
G10 P1 R0 S0
; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

; Custom settings are not configured

as i said. Everything works, including both tool Extruders.

I tested a bit further, and as it turns out, the Extruder settings survive homez.g when i set G90 after the M92 command.
Now it survives it, when i First home z, then x& Y whith seperate Gcodes. G28 Z, G28 X, G28 Y; but not when i first home x and Y and also not G28...
I don't get it.

Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Alex

[deckingman]

@theBohnanza A couple of things leap out at me. If you take a gander here https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M584_Set_drive_mapping and in particular the order dependencies, you see that M584 must come before M667 especially when creating new axes. That might be the cause of your issues.

I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to do with this machine but it looks like you want two independent Z axis - Z and U. So I can't quite fathom the logic of assigning both drive 5 and 6 to the Z axis at the end of your homez yet in your config.g you have only one motor assigned to Z. If both motors should normally move in sync but home independently then they ought to be mapped together in config.g but split at the start of homing then re-mapped at the end. But as I said, I'm not sure what it is you are trying to do or how your machine is physically configured.

Finally, your firmware version is really old - you ought to consider updating it.

[theBohnanza]

Hi, Thanks
Indeed the M667 is before M584 in my congig. i think theres a bug in the reprap configuration tool, since it was paced there by it.
I changed it.

What i have build is a machine with 2 printheads, wich are moved up and down on seperate Z axis. The table moves in X and Y below them. There is a similar design called zidex, you can see it on youtube.

I now have the debug log and it turns out, that the Steps/mm get confused. Before the homeall routine planned steps for a couple mm Filament are in this case 16000 stepps planned. After it 20! This also explains, why the motor is "enabled" but doesn't run as stated in the first post.

I leave the log for you down below.

@deckingman what do you mean, my firmware version is really old? 2.04 RC4 was just released 12 days ago?https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/releases

Thanks
Alex

Board Info (M115)
serial: M115<\n>
FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.04RC4 ELECTRONICS: Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later + DueX5 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-10-19b1<\n>
ok<\n>

clean reset
heating up T0 and extruding 20mm with 60mm/s

http: G10 P0 S220<\n>
http: T0<\n>
Heater 1 switched on<\n>

http: M120<\n>
http: M83<\n>
http: G1 E20 F3600<\n>
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http: M121<\n>
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mmPerStepTimesCdivtopSpeed=59999 fmsdmtstdca2=0 cc=0 acc=0<\n>

home all routine

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http: M98 P"homez.g"<\n>
http: T-1 P0<\n>
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http: M92 Z274.8969 U1099.5876<\n>
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http: G91 <\n>
http: G1 S1 Z150 U150 F1800 <\n>
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mmPerStepTimesCdivtopSpeed=164622 fmsdmtstdca2=0 cc=0 acc=0<\n>
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http: G1 Z-10 U-10 F1800<\n>
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http: G1 S1 Z15 U15 F600<\n>
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mmPerStepTimesCdivtopSpeed=123467 fmsdmtstdca2=0 cc=0 acc=0<\n>
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mmPerStepTimesCdivtopSpeed=493928 fmsdmtstdca2=0 cc=0 acc=0<\n>
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http: M584 X10 Y11 Z5:6 E3:4<\n>
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http: M92 Z274.8969 E800:800<\n>

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http: G90<\n>
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[theBohnanza]

extruding 20mm with 60mm/s AFTER home all routine

(tool select & heatup)
http: T0<\n>
http: M584 Z5<\n>
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Transformed 0.00 0.00 109.00 97.00 to 0 0 29964 106660<\n>
http: M92 Z266.65 steps left<\n>
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Transformed 0.00 0.00 109.00 97.00 to 0 0 29065 106660<\n>
http: M116 P0<\n>
(extrude)
http: M120<\n>
http: M83<\n>
http: G1 E20 F3600<\n>
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http: M121<\n>
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[deckingman]

@theBohnanza said in Two seperate Z Axis Printer:

@deckingman what do you mean, my firmware version is really old? 2.04 RC4 was just released 12 days ago?https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/releases

My bad - I was just going by what you have at the top of your config.g - quote

"Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)".

I should have read your OP properly - sorry.

[wilriker]

One thing that strikes me is that you redefine steps/mm in your homez.g. As long as they are not different per stepper to what you define in config.g there is no need to do that again. Firmware will remember the steps/mm per driver even if you combine or split several drivers to/from an axis. Can you comment that part out and see if it still confuses the steps/mm for the extruder?

[theBohnanza]

Hi,
@deckingman ah, i see. Didn't see the comment in the gcode file.

@wilriker Tried it, sadly still no difference
By now i have commented each line of gcode out once to find the source of error, no further improvement since.

I have to overwrite the steps, since i have to remap Z between Drive 5 and 6 with each toolchange, wich works flawlessly btw.
Stupidly additionally to the more complicated settings in duet i have chosen to try 2 differently geared steppers for the two z axis, which is why i have to set Z Steps/mm.

I have added a M92 command at the end of homeall.g to see, if it would change something- it didn't.

@dc42 do you have an idea?

Thanks guys!
Alex