Posts made by pmeyer

@chrishamm

Ok, I think I figured it out. Yesterday before all this started, I was trying to figure out how to manage my config files (working to set up a tool changer and wanted a real system with git to manage the files). I was exploring how to essentially rsynch the files from my mac to the duet.

As part of this I enabled FTP.

I then started doing some test scripts to synch the files, including copying back and forth a bunch of tiles.

I then did a 'clean' install of 3.4.5, but of course it had an empty /sys directory and was complaining, so I copied back in my config. That config had a line enabling ftp. So, not quite the "clean install" I thought I had.

With ftp disabled, I don't see issues. I do sometimes see a single "connection lost retrying" cycle before the full page comes up, but it appears to be able to recover from it. Normally I don't see any retry, just a clean load.

Summary:
If you are having issues with Duet Web Control having difficulty connecting on a Duet 2 Ethernet (or likely Duet 2 Wifi), make sure you have ftp disabled. For some reason, the resources allocated to ftp (even if they aren't currently in use) make the web server much less resilient to any network noise.

@chrishamm 3.5b3 didn't change the behavior.

If repeating the debug traces or wireshark on 3.5b3 will help, or running with different filters/flags would help, let me know.

I'm assuming right now it is some amount of packet loss and the web-app/server not able to overcome it.

To see if my wifi is especially bad/lossy, I also did a wireshark dump of a web connection to my local pfsense box. Traced a full session paging around through a bunch of options, no dropped packets.

My (tentative) conclusion is that something about the connection from my mac -> wifi -> router -> cable -> duet is making life difficult for the ethernet board and packets are being dropped...

Is there any way to do lower level debug of the ethernet daughterboard?

@chrishamm What is the best way to upgrade to 3.5b3?

Is it this?

• Download these two files:

Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin
DuetWebControl-SD.zip

• go to the dwc interface, system tab
• upload the bin file, then the webcontrol zip?

@chrishamm Ok, I've got some debug dumps.

google drive link

the "*.log" ascii files are serial port dumps.

firefox_wired.log has m115 and m122 dumps, along with m111 (network/webserver) debug of a successful page load (wired)

The other two *.log have failed attempts (wifi, chrome and firefox).

There are also two wireshark dumps. Wireshark was running on my mac, capturing all traffic on the wired or wireless main connection (filter "host 10.200.20.20" => the duet fixed ip).

One dump for wired pass, one dump for wireless fail.

Let me know if you can make anything of it. What I'm seeing is some packet loss and the combination of chrome/firefox, the web app, and the server not being able to correctly retransmit.

@chrishamm I already have a pi set up for usb-serial connect, so I'll enable debugging.

I'm wondering if somehow the browser is using multiple sockets (establishing multiple connections for faster loading...)

@chrishamm Thanks for replying!

Wifi definitely seems to exacerbate the problem, but I have no issues with the connectivity elsewhere. My mac is 4 ft from ASUS ZenWiFi AX6600, ~2ms ping. I now have the duet wired to the same router.

I'll think about debug steps. Possibilities:

Software:

• wireshark on my mac
• try it on a Pi4 or ubuntu over wifi
• try a different wifi router on a standalone network, fixed IPs
• see if I can reproduce it with wired connection
  • multiple windows talking to the duet seems to make it worse, maybe can leverage that
• try it on Win11 over wifi, different browsers

Hardware:

• disconnect all the printer wiring from the board, isolate it from fan noise

• try it with a 24v bench supply rather than the toolchanger PSU

• last ditch: replace ethernet module (it's not soldered, right?)

I'll see what I can do, might take a few days.

What it feels like is that in certain traffic situations the webserver gets lost. Backpressure on the network? request flood? Overheat?

As a quick test I'm uploading a 512MB gcode file from my win11 machine (wired). While that is ongoing, another tab on the same machine, or another browser on the same machine can connect just fine. Slightly slower, but the duet seems to juggle the work ok.

However, when that upload is ongoing, no browser from the mac can connect. Safari gets closest, and actually displays a horribly formatted page (as if the css didn't get downloaded but the main content did).

Actually, after uploading that file I have difficulty connecting from any browser. Safari consistently shows the corrupted version above. Chrome now reconnects 5-6 times before finally getting all the files and dropping into refresh mode where it just updates the data and seems stable.

Debug continues.

Some new info: I see the issue in Chrome as well. I uploaded a few macro files through DWC and that kicked Chrome into the "connection lost" loop for 30 seconds. I'm starting to think my ethernet daughter-board is bad or unreliable.

I definitely don't want to invest more into an old Duet2. No way am spending >$200 for a duet3. I absolutely need the DWC connection to be rock solid so I can control prints. I'm exploring flashing Klipper on there as an alternative.

That will solve my other problem: I hate editing config files through the DWC interface, I want emacs.

That was what I was doing before things went bad: working on scripts to synch all the sys/ and macro/ files between my mac and the duet so I could edit locally. I suspect (without much data) that all those fast file transfers pushed my ethernet daughter-board over the edge.

Hopefully the USB-Serial connection is fine and I can just ssh into the pi to edit my klipper configs.

My toolchanger has a Duet 2 Ethernet. Haven't really used the printer, trying to get it up again (it sat for a few years).

Running rr3.4.5, fresh 8GB SD card install.

I'm trying to connect to it from my Mac. If my mac is connected to wired ethernet, I can connect to DWC just fine in Firefox, Chrome, or Safari. Ping is <1ms.

If I disconnect the ethernet cable and go wifi, I can connect to DWC just fine with Safari or Chrome. Firefox (unfortunately my main browser) has issues. It will get into a loop of "Connection interrupted, attempting to reconnect","Connection Established", about a 1 second cycle. It'll do that for a minute or two and eventually connect. I can see more and more of the DWC info (temperatures, etc.) showing up as it cycles.

The printer is idle during all of this.

Weirdly, if I have Safari open to DWC and then try to connect with Firefox, Safari will start losing connection and cycling as well.

If I go into Developer Tools/Network on Firefox and 'throttle' the connection to "Regular 4G/LTE" or slower, it can connect just fine, not even a hiccup...

It seems like Firefox might be flooding the board with requests for a bunch of frames at once(?) and the board can't keep up? Chrome/Safari make requests in a different way? Just speculating here. Doesn't explain why it's fine wired, though...

I have solid wifi (500 Mb/s out to the world, should be better, 4 ft from wifi router, one hop from there to router duet is connected to, 3ms ping).

It seems to be getting a bunch of these errors (from the Firefox network tab console):

Error: Network error
    ExtendableBuiltin app.d0ad7b20.js:42
    _createSuperInternal Babel
    NetworkError errors.js:16
    onerror PollConnector.js:168
PollConnector.js:584:11
Error: Network error
    ExtendableBuiltin app.d0ad7b20.js:42
    _createSuperInternal Babel
    NetworkError errors.js:16
    onerror BaseConnector.js:59
index.js:68:13
Error: Network error

I'm going to keep debugging, but just curious if anybody has had similar issues.

Simple one:

• the link to the "?Gcode Reference" in the editor is great!
• Can you add a concise version of that near the "Send code..." text box on the console tab
  • maybe just a "?G" (with rollover text explaining what it is) to the right of the "Send" box.

Not a huge deal, but that is someplace I very commonly need that link.

In DWC2, clicking the T0 button to allow preheating it also causes it to be picked up. Addressing this in the e3d ToolChanger setup Dozuki there is a comment:

"You need to untick the boxes in the UI settings which run the toolchange scripts within the UI"

Do comparable buttons exist in DWC2?

@Phaedrux

It was the IAP file that was messing me up. It asked for the IAP file which did not exist in the 2.05 release. I wasn’t confident enough to mix in the IAP file from the 3.0 release with my 2.05 bin. Reading elsewhere, that is the way to do it.

I’ll try the swapping back and forth approach and see if I can get it working. I do have access to DWC now (after some work...)

@jens55 said in RepRap ver 3 upgrade - oh my ....:

... but thankfully I upgraded on a spare memory card so I can easily revert to the old system.

Is there an easy downgrade path? I got a new duet with my e3d toolchanger and immediately flashed it to the latest firmware (bad habit, apparently). At that point I was dead in the water, as I kept getting javascript-error/disconnect in dwc (and therefore had no easy downgrade path).

In the end, I built/installed duetWebControl 2.0 which resolved the javascript errors, but all the toolchanger scripts need to be updated/modified to work. I'm partway through (it homes now...)

Is downgrading the firmware as simple as uploading the 2.05 version of Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin from https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/2.05, clicking "upgrade", and rebooting? I have a Duet2Ethernet if it matters.