Is anybody else feeling the squeeze?
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@deckingman said in Is anybody else feeling the squeeze?:
Then we'd need an area of about 65,000 km^2 of solar panels somewhere in sun at any time of the day
I thought of deserts (Gobi 1.3 Mio km², Sahara 9.2, Patagonia 0.6, west Australia, Arabia desert 0.2 => they will do it) with the added benefit for shadows and potentionally plants below the solar cells.
Instead of throwing energy away when there is too much wind or solar, I would use the excess for H20 to H, or filtering water, or recycling, splitting non-biodegradable platics to the molecules etc. This requires intelligent processes, this is what I meant with "we need innovators".
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A voice from the past
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@joergs5 Sandstorms might be wreak havoc, and servicing/ maintenance could be in issue in such remote and inhospitable locations. But however you look at it, it's an awful lot of solar panels which will take decades to produce, transport, and install and won't help the immediate problem. Imo, that problem has been bought about by short sighted governments and their obsession with their headlong dash to achieve net zero without having a reliable alternative energy source available. I'm sick and fed up with the global elite telling us we must all use less energy, and forcing us to do so by making it unaffordable, while they fly around the world in their private jets and 80 car motorcades. Our prime minister has told us that this is the price we must pay for the war the Ukraine, yet he won't be paying that price. We the taxpayer have to pay his energy bills along with the energy bills for every politician's second home which they claim on expenses.
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@deckingman the deserts were an example to reply that we have too few spaces. Spanish "desert" may be far better, without political problems and sandstorms.
I agree to most of your or the other user's comments about elite etc. However, I personally don't want to be sort of paralysed by this bad feeling and try to find or think about solutions - if nothing else helps, without the "elites".
I don't think the term elite is ideal because there are different aspects of it, for example wealth/power or intelligence. IMO we need much more intelligence elite. -
@joergs5 Maybe. But putting solar in urban areas such as roof tops and car parks makes more sense if there is enough room, because most of the infrastructure is already in place and access would be easier. Personally I think nuclear would be a better option because it's reliable 24/7 regardless of whether the sun shines. Fusion would solve the waste problem but that's decades away.
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@joergs5 said in Is anybody else feeling the squeeze?:
I don't think the term elite is ideal because there are different aspects of it, for example wealth/power or intelligence. IMO we need much more intelligence elite.
I believe that 'elite' is more about being in a position of power rather than about intelligence. I know many intelligent populists.
As for technical solutions, I think it misses the point. The problem is political rather than technological, misprioritizing virtue signaling related to the cathastrophic-man-made-global-warming narrative over the wellness of the populous. The solution is to remember it next time we vote.
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In an attempt to steer this away from the inevitable political discussion, and back to the title of this thread, does anyone else stop and ask themselves if their next planned print or printer upgrade is necessary and affordable? For me this is just a hobby so therefore falls into the category of things that can be cut back on in order to afford the basics necessary for survival (warmth, shelter and food). I'm not saying that I can't afford to print anything but what I am saying is that I pause and do a sort of subconscious cost/benefit analysis before pressing the button.
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@deckingman I do most of my printing on a Prusa Mini these days, which pulls about 60 watts with PLA. A 10 hour print would cost about 8 cents here in that case, which is a small fraction of the cost of the filament. Perhaps a smaller printer would help?
I’ve really only ever printed functional/useful things anyway, though.
Also - you’ve helped out on these forums quite a bit, have you thought about a Patreon or a PayPal link in your signature? I’d be happy to send the equivalent of many prints of electricity as thanks for your time spent here. Or perhaps offering to do some consulting work? I often get companies looking for help implementing Duet products, and don’t personally have the bandwidth to assist.
There’s always a solution beyond complaining! (Though I understand the need to let off steam)
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@deckingman said in Is anybody else feeling the squeeze?:
does anyone else stop and ask themselves if their next planned print or printer upgrade is necessary and affordable?
I always ask myself if it expenses are affordable and necessary, or as I call it 'justified and reasonable'. Excess of stuff is typically not an indicator of well being. As for cutting cost of living, we have bigger fishes to fry than electricity, for example, in what state/town we live (which also impacts electricity cost).
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@elmoret Sorry if you felt I was complaining - that's not in my nature (stiff upper lip old boy and all that British stuff).
I was just laying out the situation as it affects me and wondering if I was alone in my situation.As for Patreon and PayPal, I've spent very many hundreds more hours making YouTube videos and writing blog posts, than I do on these forums. Links to both my YouTube channel and blog are in my signature and they in turn have links to my Patreon and PayPal accounts. Whilst I have 1600 or so subscribers to my channel, very few people feel the urge to part with any cash. But don't get me wrong - I don't do it for the money. And I am very grateful to the Duet guys and other companies such as Bondtech, 3D Filaprint and Polymaker who have supported me by donating hardware. Without their help I wouldn't have a CoreXYUV with 6 extruders capable of multi colour (English spelling of color) printing and more recently multi-filament.
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@zapta Thanks for that - it's the sort of response I was hoping to get. Essentially what you seem to be saying is that electricity cost isn't really a factor and I can see why.
So here in the UK for domestic users, a KWhr current costs around 30p. Using today's exchange rate of 1.17 USD to the pound that's around 35 cents. So around three times the highest cost on that graphic. These prices will increase by 80% on 1st October making the cost of a kWh 52p or around 61 cents. That's five times your highest rate. Then in January there will be a further increase predicted to be at least another 50% making the cost of one kWh 78p which is around 91 cents. That's nearly eight time what you guys are paying.
The situation for businesses is much worse. There is no regulation or cap on what they can be charged and they are looking at increases of 300% or more. The typical English pub along with most small businesses, is on the verge of extinction with current electricity costs of £12,000 annually rising to over £35,000 and beyond.
I now understand what the "zero" is in government's net zero policy. It's what we'll have in our bank accounts and it's the number of small businesses still trading.
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@deckingman Had to dig a bit to find those links - often times people put them in the video description, but I found them in the About of the YouTube channel. Sent some $, keep up the good work!
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@elmoret Thanks - much appreciated. Recent videos should have links in the description but you often have to click the "show more" button. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXFL6vNa0Xk. I'll move them up to make them more prominent in future.
EDIT. I've just checked my emails and seen one from PayPal. That was an extremely generous donation - thank you so much! I feel motivated again to make another video about my 6 in 1 out multi-material hot end which is mostly working. I might even fire up the printer and make something just for the hell of it. I have in mind an anti-vibration motor mount with two plates made from say ABS and Carbon Fibre Nylon with TPU between and using a support material for the top plate - all using the same nozzle. Watch this space.....
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@deckingman if that's a spherical panorama from your window, where's the house???
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@gnydick said in Is anybody else feeling the squeeze?:
@deckingman if that's a spherical panorama from your window, where's the house???
Ummm, that isn't a spherical panorama, nor was it taken from a window. The pictures were all taken with me standing on my patio outside the back door with my back to the house. The first picture shows a pile of uncut logs stacked on the patio with the raised deck in the background and the right hand fence between my neighbours house and mine. The second picture shows a pile of uncut logs on the deck, in front of my shed and looking towards the left hand boundary fence which is behind the shed. You can just see the steps from the patio up to the deck. The curved trellis fence in the background is the edge of the property which backs onto open fields. The third picture shows the drying racks I built with the cut and split logs stacked. These are in the far left corner of the deck, somewhat behind the shed which you can just see the edge of.
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@gnydick Maybe this will explain the other pics a bit better. That's my entire back garden, part way through cutting and splitting that pile of logs.
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I feel your pain when it comes to fuel and energy prices of late, however, you should count your blessings. Here in the US about 1/2 of the population has gone completely insane, and unfortunately for the rest of us, it's the half that owns most of the guns. I fear that the US is on the verge of devolving into some B-movie like post-apocalyptic dystopia over the next couple years.
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@mrehorstdmd I try to keep abreast of what's happening in the rest of the world. That in itself is difficult because all mainstream media seems to have it's own political agenda so their bias pervades all their reporting (of lack of). On the other hand, social media can be full of crackpots and conspiracy theorists. So getting at the truth is difficult. In your opinion, which half of the population has gone completely insane - Republicans or Democrats? I'm guessing that republicans are more likely to carry guns than democrats so you would consider them to be the crazy ones, or am I wrong?
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@mrehorstdmd said in Is anybody else feeling the squeeze?:
it's the half that owns most of the guns.
... which is not the half that commits riots, looting, political violence, kills cops, burn our cities, and suppresses our speech.
Back to 3D printers, how does the cost of electricity and the cost of filament compare for a typical print? Does any of them dominates the cost?
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OMFG. Nevermind.....
