Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC

smoki3

Is there a reason why on my duet2 ethernet capacity C99 is not equipped? Is a capacity in the 5V buck converter.

I looked at the schematic normally there should be a 250uF capacity. Could this be a reason?

which revision is the board?

wilriker

@smoki3 On my 1.03 board C99 is populated. My meter refused to measure the capacitance but it's certainly higher than "none".

@T3P3Tony might answer this question better if that would pose a problem (I'm primarily a software guy ).

smoki3

@bearer Its a 1.04c

@smoki3 said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

1.04c

iirc its normal then, it was fitted to 1.04, 1.04a and 1.04b but not 1.04c.

also given the cpu and wifi runs off 3.3v with its own smoothing cap i'm not sure it matters, but I can try it next week if I manage to throw together a printed part with pogo pins for the wifi (edit: printed part is modelled for P50 + R50 pins, may need to drill out holes)

@smoki3 seems I've missplaced or run out of pogo pins, and with logistis being what it is I doubt I'll test it any time soon.

maybe you could try soldering a regular radial through hole capacitor to the pads and see if it helps? (or see if Tony has anything to add)

smoki3

@bearer I don't have capacitor by hand

wilriker

@smoki3 First of all I can confirm that with external PSU I see the same behavior. I need to check the cause of that next.

@wilriker said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

with external PSU

as in external 5v?

wilriker

@bearer As in external 24V going to VIN of the board.

wilriker

So what I can see is that it does not have anything to do with the internal 5V regulator. If I connect the Duet via USB to the RPi and remove the jumper for internal 5V, i.e. I_5V_EN (completely or put it on E_5V_EN - does not matter) the same problem occurs. So VIN is somehow messing with SPI as soon as it get's to fast transfers as it seems. Still checking.

Hm, will try to repeat test with 24v and get the scope out, was under the impression I had used Vin but could be organic bitrot..

smoki3

@wilriker I also tried to disable the internal 5V converter by removing the the jumper. But I also does not help

smoki3

Is the ethernet module also working over SPI?

wilriker

@smoki3 said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

Is the ethernet module also working over SPI?

Yes, it does.

smoki3

@wilriker Then its even more wired that it is working with the ethernet module and not with a raspberry

@smoki3 said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

Then its even more wired that it is working with the ethernet module and not with a raspberry

Maybe try if the wireless wifi is better? Jokes asides, I find not all boards are the same; will try to log some data and take a look at the signals.

edit: maybe one of the regulators need a minimum load that you loose when removing the ethernet - just something that hit me on the way out

wilriker

@bearer said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

edit: maybe one of the regulators need a minimum load that you loose when removing the ethernet - just something that hit me on the way out

But it also happens if the internal regulators are not even used (by removing the I_5V_EN jumper) but 5V is provided from external. As soon as 24V is put to VIN it will fail with any kind of largish transfer. Regular (small) status updates work.

@wilriker said in Duet 2 Ethernet and SBC:

But it also happens if the internal regulators are not even used

still use the 3.3v one i suspect, which is where the load from the Ethernet module would be; but it shouldn't be affected by Vin.

i've just been to collect my 8 channel thingy and hope to take a look later if I get some helping hands

update: Pi died (likely unrelated to SBC testing, as it died over night with no SBC connected) but further testing on hold pending a new Pi.

smoki3

Anyone found a solution?

Could it be a software issue?